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Offline Swindon Andy

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Headlamp conversions and MOT
« on: January 13, 2021, 12:03:44 am »
This is in the latest gov. MOT instructions...LEDs now in trouble.

Some motorcycles may be fitted with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) headlamps. Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with HID or LED bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 08:59:40 am »
Blimey didn’t know that....another challenge to beat the system  ;D

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 09:57:35 am »
« Last Edit: January 13, 2021, 10:12:52 am by raesewell »

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 10:25:59 am »
All it actually means is that once a year, your MoT preparation includes swapping a halogen bulb into the headlight then post MoT, swapping the HID/LED back again. Less than 2 mins for either job.
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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 11:07:57 am »
Obviously as a forum we cannot endorse this procedure and you do this at your own risk of breaking the law.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 11:17:02 am »
Agree Rae, just like we don't endorse exceeding a speed limit which, luckily, is something none of us do! :D
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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 12:43:24 pm »
Have a couple bikes with HID fitted for the single purpose of the Monday night ride home when we got off the Portsmouth ferry at 9pm on the way home from Le-Mans in April, because I was seeing way too much wild life cross the road at that time of night till we got up to the M40.

In the end had a change of plan and off the boat and straight round the corner to the Ibis, early breakfast and still home before 11am.

So the HID became a minor detail in the end, and hence why I haven’t bothered with later bikes.

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 04:18:31 pm »
This is in the latest gov. MOT instructions...LEDs now in trouble.

Some motorcycles may be fitted with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) headlamps. Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with HID or LED bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.

Hey Andy, can you source this please? i.e. pretend it's A levels and you have to name your sources when you insist in your essay that dogs can't look left. :D
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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 04:26:06 pm »
Ok I went and had a look anyway (what a waste of internet!) and as I am pleased with my progress today, I will now list what I think are fun changes in the Jan '21 updates to the motorcycle MOT inspection manual:

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0.1. Identification of the vehicle - Registration plates - Changed bullet from 'be mounted at the rear of the motorcycle' to 'be mounted towards the rear of the motorcycle'
Wicked. So that's my plate going on the left rearset!

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4.1.4 Headlamps - Compliance with requirements - Sentence changed from 'Some motorcycles may be fitted with high intensity discharge (HID) headlamps. Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with HID bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.' to 'Some motorcycles may be fitted with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) headlamps. Existing halogen headlamp units should not be converted to be used with HID or LED bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.'
The offending sausage of amusement.

Well, that wasn't very exciting. The last change was 24th Sept 2019.

This one is amusing (my bold):
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2.2.2 Forks and yokes. Added information to clarify how to raise the wheels clear of ground. Changed defect 2.2.2.f.i wording to 'Steering head bearings excessively stiff, notchy, or with excessive wear or play’.


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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2021, 04:38:11 pm »
All it actually means is that once a year, your MoT preparation includes swapping a halogen bulb into the headlight then post MoT, swapping the HID/LED back again. Less than 2 mins for either job.
...if only...!  :-\
Late emerging biker - took the first bike plunge at 50 with a 12GT : swapped for a 13S 9 months in... then got my mitts on a lovely 2014 13R Dynamic in rrrrrracing rrrrred! Then the COVID came along... so I upped it to France and bought a V85TT... O Sole Mio etc etc!

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2021, 09:15:31 am »
All it actually means is that once a year, your MoT preparation includes swapping a halogen bulb into the headlight then post MoT, swapping the HID/LED back again. Less than 2 mins for either job.
...if only...!  :-\

You need to swap your R for an S! ;)
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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2021, 11:17:37 am »
" Wicked. So that's my plate going on the left rearset! "

I'd stick it on the right rearset.

Hopefully would then be obscured by the rear wheel when the camera flashes  ;D

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2021, 11:52:32 am »
Good thinking, I will get back to the 3d printer and make a hanger :D
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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2021, 12:02:35 pm »
My local MoT tester (who still sits on the MoT Council) passes my biKe every year and he knows it has an HID in it.

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Re: Headlamp conversions and MOT
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 04:40:59 pm »
After my last MOT I mentioned that I had HID bulbs fitted and the tester said that as far as he is concerned, the brighter a motorcycle headlight is, the better.
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