The End Of The K Series?

[Matt]

I love your update Costas . I hope everything is well with you!

[richtea]

The new K bike would be an all electric model. As stated a few days ago at the Munich new countries executives presentation.

Ooooooo!
Mind you, what else could they do? Not much choice.
Our long wheelbase hefty bike with batteries replacing the engine would probably make it lighter. Double win.
I would buy it - but only after some kind first owner had taken the hit of 3 years of depreciation.

[Matt]

It'll probably have to start that depreciation from a pretty high place too .

But it's OK because credit yaaaay!

After 9/11 George Bush told the public how to fight back: "go shopping" he said.

[Phmode]

Good advice Matt. Just not advisable in a Covid lockdown...

[Belco100]

The new K bike would be an all electric model. As stated a few days ago at the Munich new countries executives presentation.

No way - wouldn't that make it too heavy 

[Matt]

Urban electric bikes within now 4 years says some BMW fella.

Which makes sense. Low range/power city stuff first and then the proper stuff.

[Phmode]

So, one wonders quite how much a new battery would be for an electric K...

[richtea]

£5-8k would be my guess.
With say an 8 year battery lifespan, that's around £1k annual battery depreciation.
That's just my personal thinking - based on a small investigation on BMW i3 battery costs.

[Matt]

I hope they solve the whole "don't charge it to 100% too often" thing by then.

We can have the bike topped up, on charge and waiting to go at a moment's notice, but if we looking after our electric bike it'll be sat at 80% instead :p.

Still, I look forward to test riding! And less moving parts.

[Phmode]

I think not.

As far as I inderstand it, your mobile phone must not be charged to 100% nor fully discharged.

However, there is nothing wrong with leaving it on charge till the screen says 100% or discharging it till it says 0% assuming it can say anything when it is fully discharged. And therein lies the clue.

When the screen says 100% the battery is actually at 100% OF WHAT THE PHONE MANUFACTURER WILL ALLOW YOU TO PUT IN IT. That is not 100% of what the battery will take.

Similarly at 0% only the other way round.

Also, when in production, the battery management system will always keep your new K batt bike battery warm and ready to start the bike instantly.

I don't think many Tesla owners sit on their drives with their headlights on for a minute or so before zooming off to silently deliver their drugs.

[richtea]

The damage is done by leaving the battery for a long time* at 100%. If you charge and use it the next day you're OK.

On the discharge front, you have to abandon the battery to get it to true 0% - i.e. leave it in a shed for 6 months, so that's a lot harder.
Then there's the 'don't charge below 0C'. And getting them hot. Etc....

*Now I need to go and verify how long 'a long time' is, but initial checks say several days/weeks.

[Matt]

Yeah that's the thing. Though I suppose I do like to plan ahead!