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Benelli 1200GT
« on: September 23, 2020, 07:36:11 pm »

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 08:32:10 pm »
> ...high-definition cameras mounted on the front and rear of the bike.'

Now that is good use of modern technology (the rear one, that is), and not just for the sake of being different.
A definite improvement over mirrors, avoiding elbows/shoulders, if you can keep the lens clear.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 08:56:54 pm »
Yes Rich, they have thrown a lot of technology at it.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2020, 08:54:30 am »
Copyright shmoppyright! Says I on my mobile computer phone.

That electric car, you know, the weird one, has cameras instead of mirrors but on the bike I can move about to alter the view because angle of incidence. Can't do that with a camera. In that car. You know. The weird one.
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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2020, 10:42:01 am »
A copy of a Triumph Trophy which was a copy of a BMW R1200RT?

To be fair it looks like a reasonable bike if Touring is your thing, but the price and reliability we tell if it sells. Benelli did have a 1130cc engine that was a good starting point, but as Rae says - Italian design with Chinese parts, what could go wrong?

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2020, 10:46:56 am »
Simon, I think the bike looks good but would you want the greif  :-\ I suppose they will learn as they go along just like other manufacturers.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2020, 11:19:50 am »
I think it looks fine. It's a bit too "touring" for me but I'm not the market it'll be aimed at. It's certainly as good looking, if not better, than the expected competition.

I have no issues with the Italian/Chinese approach. Italian design has always been up there with the best. I'm sure if you were to ask a group of motorcyclists to list their top 10 bike designs, the Italians would be distinctly "over represented". Chinese parts are down to the specification (and ensuring those specifications are followed). Specify the requirements with sufficient detail and clarity and the Chinese can be very good at producing those parts cheaply and efficiently. After all, this is how a large number of components for pretty much all manufacturers are being produced.
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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2020, 12:04:28 pm »
Surely QA is the issue, not the country of origin. True of any product.
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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2020, 12:35:32 pm »
I thinks it's more QC than QA they can assure the quality but delivering quality is down to Quality Control  ;D
Coming from a QC background in the paint and powder coatings industry I had the final say as to whether or not the product got released to the customer. The Chinese have always had a problem with QC as they don't have giant factories more cottage industries and getting all of the cottages to play by the same rules can be a challenge.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2020, 02:40:30 pm »
They'll need both, so I'd say we're both right, Rae.
If QA is failing, there's not a hope in hell for QC - it will be garbage in, garbage out (GIGO).

Ref (for others): https://www.diffen.com/difference/Quality_Assurance_vs_Quality_Control:
> The goal of QA is to improve development and test processes so that defects do not arise when the product is being developed.
> The goal of QC is to identify defects after a product is developed and before it's released.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2020, 12:51:17 pm »

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2020, 09:29:36 pm »
The Benelli is way too fiddly a design and very 'Chinese' market influenced, you only have to look at some of the Range Rover knock off type cars to see the fussiness. Much more Chinese design than Italian methinks.

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Re: Benelli 1200GT
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2020, 09:49:44 pm »
Another one. This time with a KTM engine.

https://bikereview.com.au/news/new-model-cfmoto-1250tr-g-grand-tourer-1279cc-twin/

If they put that KTM into a sports tourer (as opposed to an adventure bike pretending to be a sport tourer) I could almost be tempted.