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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2018, 05:16:59 pm »
MOAR!  :)




Brake fluid was changed last year....  8)


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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2018, 05:46:16 pm »
At your mileage you must be due the 30,000k service which includes plugs and valve clearances.

Would also expect final drive oil and all dog leg needles clean and grease.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2018, 06:25:27 pm »
At your mileage you must be due the 30,000k service which includes plugs and valve clearances.

Would also expect final drive oil and all dog leg needles clean and grease.

This isn't guess work, Tom.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 05:49:19 pm »
Quote received from BMW Service Manager.  :wink: 18,000 mile service = £430.00 INC VAT!. Seems not too bad to be honest and yes it's Shell BMW Advance oil or you can ***k right off!

They're asking £50 to change the tyres which is at least £20 too much. I'll get the MOT & tyres done locally and then make the trip to Dundee as the bike nears 18,000 miles which shouldn't take long given it's now, summer.  ::)

If anyone's interested in seeing the actual quote I can post that up in a redacted fashion to protect the names of the guilty.

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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2018, 05:53:21 pm »
So cos I'm a simple guy and due the valve check and plug service and the fuel strip needs doing again I phoned the dealer.

They are quoting £423 for the big service inc valve check, fluid, plugs etc... Though they were very keen to emphasise that this was a valve 'check' and that other work would add to the cost... which I interpret to mean if the valves actually need adjusting they'd like to charge me more...

It's not cheap, but I didn't expect it to be... I've also asked the independent chap at York for a quote, so will let you know if I hear back.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2018, 05:55:22 pm »
Quote received from BMW Service Manager. 18,000 mile service = £430.00. Seems not to bad to be honest and yes it's Shell BMW Advance oil or you can ***k right off!

They're asking £50 to change of the tyres which is at least £20 too much. I'll get the MOT & tyres done locally and then make the trip to Dundee as the bike nears 18,000 miles which shouldn't take long given it's now, summer.  ::)

If anyone's interested in seeing the actual quote I can post that up in a redacted fashion.....

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Pricing looks pretty consistent then.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2018, 05:56:15 pm »
Quote received from BMW Service Manager. 18,000 mile service = £430.00. Seems not to bad to be honest and yes it's Shell BMW Advance oil or you can ***k right off!

They're asking £50 to change of the tyres which is at least £20 too much. I'll get the MOT & tyres done locally and then make the trip to Dundee as the bike nears 18,000 miles which shouldn't take long given it's now, summer.  ::)

If anyone's interested in seeing the actual quote I can post that up in a redacted fashion.....

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Pricing looks pretty consistent then.

Indeed and how much can a few shims cost? Not more than a few quid, surely?
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2018, 06:01:01 pm »
Shims are £3 each secondhand - I'd expect new ones to be a good fiver or so.

Changing the shims is a WHOLE lot more work than checking them. To check them, you only have to get the valve cover off. To change them, you have to lock the engine at TDC, take the camchain sprocket off, install the camshaft tensioner bolts, remove all camshaft bearing bolts, remove the camshaft bearings, then lift out whichever camshaft you need to get to. Then you can change the shim, and do it all back up again. To the correct torque. When I do it, it's around an extra hour's work for me, over just checking them.


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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2018, 06:03:53 pm »
Shims are £3 each secondhand - I'd expect new ones to be a good fiver or so.

Changing the shims is a WHOLE lot more work than checking them. To check them, you only have to get the valve cover off. To change them, you have to lock the engine at TDC, take the camchain sprocket off, install the camshaft tensioner bolts, remove all camshaft bearing bolts, remove the camshaft bearings, then lift out whichever camshaft you need to get to. Then you can change the shim, and do it all back up again. To the correct torque. When I do it, it's around an extra hour's work for me, over just checking them.


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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2018, 06:13:56 pm »
Yeah, well - when you want this kind of performance out of an engine, you can't have heavy valve adjustment gear - it has to be lightweight shims.

It's also worth noting that doing the valve clearances requires the coolant to be drained, and spark plugs out, so if you're doing sparks, it makes sense to do the valves whilst you're there (or vice versa). This is most likely why they both have the same maintenance interval (30,000km). Coolant therefore has a default life of 30,000km as well!

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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2018, 06:23:03 pm »
Yeah, well - when you want this kind of performance out of an engine, you can't have heavy valve adjustment gear - it has to be lightweight shims.

It's also worth noting that doing the valve clearances requires the coolant to be drained, and spark plugs out, so if you're doing sparks, it makes sense to do the valves whilst you're there (or vice versa). This is most likely why they both have the same maintenance interval (30,000km). Coolant therefore has a default life of 30,000km as well!

Good points well put. Thanks. Coolant is listed on the service quote as is replacement final drive/bevel gear oil and ball joint lubrication.

Also worth stating that if anyone says they can do a valve check the same day? they're big fat liars as the engine needs to be stone cold, so left overnight to cool completely before checking the clearances.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2018, 06:33:05 pm »
Bevel drive gear oil is pretty simple - 30 minute job, and that's only because filling it is fiddly.

'Ball joint lubrication' isn't what it seems - it's nothing to do with the ball joints!!! They would be exceptionally hard to lubricate. It actually refers to the spherical joint in the exhaust, somewhere near the valve flap if you've got a 1300. The steel parts corrode, so this service item simply specifies to undo the joint, apply copper grease, and do it up again! Comical that they charge for this.

Good point on the engine temp - we have conflicting requirements here. For an oil change (included in most services), the engine needs to be up to operating temp. For valve clearance check, max engine temp is specified as 35°C, so there needs to be a good few hours between these items. Maybe that's when the lubricate the 'ball joint'.

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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2018, 07:06:35 pm »
I was quoted an additional £83 (on top of the cost of the valve check) if the valves need adjusting. Only 1 litre of Antifreeeze required though... is that all it takes, or is that just a re-use and top up. I guess it's enough if the Radiator isn't Donald Ducked.
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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2018, 11:39:23 am »
Okay so the bike is finally booked in for the 18k service next week. I'll also be asking them to check the clutch as it has a noticeable 'chatter' at the biting point when properly warm. It's better with more revs, but it's there. Will try and get a video of it chattering and share.

BTW. I asked a local independent mechanic if he could do the job? and answer was, sorry no, special BMW tools required.

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Re: 2013 K1300s Franchised Dealer Service Costs (I'm sitting down already)?
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2018, 12:06:00 pm »
There are a few independent BMW specialists around, not sure if there are any in your area.