Author Topic: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP  (Read 2152 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TomL

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2325
  • Karma: +32/-4
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: K1300S
  • Location:: Hertfordshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #30 on: January 02, 2018, 11:33:29 am »
Under the seat towards the rear and tucked under the RH fairing panel




As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everybody is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

Offline Costas

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3812
  • Karma: +56/-1
  • Riders drive K, a Hawk flies, both are fast
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: K1300S
  • Modifications and add-ons:: BMW Motorrad rider and pillion HP4 pegs,10-30 lit tank bag, System 5 intercom helmets. MRA tinted screen. Evo air filters. TechSpec tank pads. MIZU lowering dogbone system. B2 accelerator. Wunderlich adjustable levers, hub , brake caliber protectors, duolever bold protector, 6 lit tail bag. Turatech ABS Sensor protectors. IDE bars. Rizoma rear led signal lights, bar ends with lever protectors, paralever arm. Sargent complete system seat (pod, pillion backrest). Shrodie side badge led signal lights two modes. T Bag tail 15-25lit bag, 5 lit tank bag. LED lights 2X35W 3000k high beam, 10W parking two modes. Tracker. Metisse front wheel protector sliders. R&G water pump protector, cardan protector. Ilmberger carbon set. Ztechnic tank protector,
  • Location:: Athens, Greece, KS-Loutsa 37°58'16.6"N 23°59'06.8"E 37.971269, 23.985224
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2018, 11:58:21 am »
Love those photos, if only I could download some myself. Do not mention to me Imgur...........
Embrace the wind.

Offline richtea

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1208
  • Karma: +14/-1
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Multi-coloured wonder
  • Location:: Banburyshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2018, 12:01:02 pm »
Excellent. Thanks Tom.

Offline sudolea

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2018, 02:00:16 pm »
I have a small number of software classes ready (testing underway) which leaves the ("any") serial communication (e.g. also that K-Line KWP2000 diagnostic communication) in the background, while the ("any") main program thread can show or record (log) the data received "from down below" (= from that background communication thread). This can very well be integrated with the software carl0s has written. I'll let you use my classes as if they were yours if you're interested, carl0s.

But apart from the fetching of the diagnostics data, I have the impression that everything else is available in this pheno's testo EDIABASLIB software ? To begin with, the translation(s) of the read values, their multiplication factors, etc. Has anyone here been using this testo software, more specifically this EDIABASLIB library ? I myself didn't install it on my computer yet, moreover I don't have the most probably necessary cables - even if I could simulate values coming in from over the network, but then again, I don't have any meaningful KWP2000- frames.
There are I0 kinds of people : those who can count in binary, and those who can't...

Offline richtea

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1208
  • Karma: +14/-1
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Multi-coloured wonder
  • Location:: Banburyshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2018, 05:52:22 pm »
I'm partway there, sudolea.
I've tried running the 'standalone' testo program, which has the EDIABAS all included as a library (I think!).

Hardware
------------
- cable(s) purchased
- plug identified (thanks TomL)
- device drivers downloaded & installed (it's a USB cable pretending to be an RS232 port)
- cable plugged in & red light comes on on the cable (haven't the faintest if red is good or bad - the Hong Kong seller isn't very helpful)
- however, the cable appears as COM9 when connected to the bike, which is positive (= device drivers working)

Software
------------
I set Testo up to listen to COM9 - that's a setting in the .ini file:
[serial]
port=COM9

Start up testo standalone, and silence.
The major part of the menu seems to want to auto-detect the ECU, but nothing happens, other than errors.
Hmmm. And I can't seem to find any instructions on how to run it.

I can see a troubleshooting menu, and in there is the option to view the serial ports - COM 9 is showing up.
However, the troubleshooting options look very low level - pin level debugging.

So, I'm stuck on how to convince testo to take note of COM9, even though it's set to that in the .ini.
I guess there's some more setup needed.

So, the missing step, like I guessed a couple of months back, is:
> Sprinkle fairy dust  :D

This was over Xmas, and up the hill in a cold garage, so I gave up after a couple of attempts.
I'll have another read around, and see if I can find some testo instructions.

Online raesewell

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3316
  • Karma: +30/-3
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Yamaha FJR (2013)
  • Location:: Normanton West Yorkshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2018, 06:12:35 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong but so far it doesn't seem to have been "Quick" or "Easy"  ???

Offline Phmode

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7598
  • Karma: +64/-15
  • I am the evil webmaster, do not cross me!
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: BMW K1300S 2012
  • Modifications and add-ons:: Sargent Seat, Powerbronze Screen, Akrapovic Silencer, Ilmberger Hugger, K12S Black Top Yoke, Helibars, Cruise, Centre Stand, Sidestand Extender, Full 3M Film, Barkbusters Hand Guards in winter.
  • Location:: Ledbury, Herefordshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2018, 06:26:10 pm »
Sometimes it worries me how stoopid you is  ::)

Online raesewell

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3316
  • Karma: +30/-3
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Yamaha FJR (2013)
  • Location:: Normanton West Yorkshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2018, 06:28:50 pm »
Sometimes it worries me how stoopid you is  ::)
Moi? please clarify  :o

Offline Phmode

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7598
  • Karma: +64/-15
  • I am the evil webmaster, do not cross me!
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: BMW K1300S 2012
  • Modifications and add-ons:: Sargent Seat, Powerbronze Screen, Akrapovic Silencer, Ilmberger Hugger, K12S Black Top Yoke, Helibars, Cruise, Centre Stand, Sidestand Extender, Full 3M Film, Barkbusters Hand Guards in winter.
  • Location:: Ledbury, Herefordshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2018, 06:35:35 pm »
I mean, like, it is just so cheap and sooooo easy..... :o

Online raesewell

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3316
  • Karma: +30/-3
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Yamaha FJR (2013)
  • Location:: Normanton West Yorkshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2018, 06:45:56 pm »
I mean, like, it is just so cheap and sooooo easy..... :o
But not quick  ;D
They have all been speaking in a foreign tongue for weeks.

Offline TomL

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2325
  • Karma: +32/-4
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: K1300S
  • Location:: Hertfordshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2018, 06:56:44 pm »
But a GS-911 WiFi Enthusiast is less than £335!!!
As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everybody is impossible, but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.

Offline richtea

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1208
  • Karma: +14/-1
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Multi-coloured wonder
  • Location:: Banburyshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2018, 07:31:42 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong but so far it doesn't seem to have been "Quick" or "Easy"  ???

Easy, yes. Buy a cable (wait 4 weeks for delivery from HK - Xmas got in the way) , download some software - plug cable into bike.
Quick, no. Not without accurate & complete instructions.

I'm just missing a few fairy dust steps.

Just found one that I missed, if anyone else is reading the thread, and considering trying specifically the 'standalone' version of Testo:

- Before running check EdiabasLib.config file and change your COM port, i.e. for me it should be         
<add key="ObdComPort" value="COM9"/>       

I'll give it another go tomorrow.

When I get it working, I'll write up the instructions for you, Rae, and we'll get you on a stopwatch.  ;D ;D ;D

Offline sudolea

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2018, 07:37:32 pm »
I'm partway there, sudolea.
...

Software
------------
I set Testo up to listen to COM9 - that's a setting in the .ini file:
[serial]
port=COM9

Start up testo standalone, and silence.
The major part of the menu seems to want to auto-detect the ECU, but nothing happens, other than errors.
...

...

Just found one that I missed, if anyone else is reading the thread, and considering trying specifically the 'standalone' version of Testo:

- Before running check EdiabasLib.config file and change your COM port, i.e. for me it should be         
<add key="ObdComPort" value="COM9"/> 
...

If it's not caused by the setting in the second quote (which I think could very well solve it), it might be baud settings that could have to be modified ? 9600,8,N,1 is most probable; or is 10400 a possibility ? carl0s could probably help you better on this (I think he's on leave for the moment).
There are I0 kinds of people : those who can count in binary, and those who can't...

Online raesewell

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3316
  • Karma: +30/-3
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Yamaha FJR (2013)
  • Location:: Normanton West Yorkshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2018, 07:58:14 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong but so far it doesn't seem to have been "Quick" or "Easy"  ???

Easy, yes. Buy a cable (wait 4 weeks for delivery from HK - Xmas got in the way) , download some software - plug cable into bike.
Quick, no. Not without accurate & complete instructions.

I'm just missing a few fairy dust steps.

Just found one that I missed, if anyone else is reading the thread, and considering trying specifically the 'standalone' version of Testo:

- Before running check EdiabasLib.config file and change your COM port, i.e. for me it should be         
<add key="ObdComPort" value="COM9"/>       

I'll give it another go tomorrow.

When I get it working, I'll write up the instructions for you, Rae, and we'll get you on a stopwatch.  ;D ;D ;D
I have no need for this equipment Rich but thank you for thinking of me.  ;)

Offline richtea

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1208
  • Karma: +14/-1
    • View Profile
  • My K bike model:: Multi-coloured wonder
  • Location:: Banburyshire
Re: Quick & Easy in-depth electronic diagnosis for CHEAP
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2018, 08:19:26 pm »
Demo day?

> Wednesday 6th [June]
9.00am      Set off from Market Harborough with a full tank please.
11.00am   Coffee stop at Rich’s place and demo Testo to Rae, just for the hell of it

If I've got it working by then  :-\