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Looking for new sat nav
« on: February 26, 2017, 01:58:43 pm »
My Zumo 550 has final died - non responsive screen

I'm looking for a replacement which
- supports Bluetooth for my phone
-  I can wire into my existing power lead
- has decent software that allows me to plan a route on my laiptop then upload it to the sat nav unit.

What are the recommendations?

(Edited to remove ref to canbus)
« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 03:52:05 pm by Greenman »

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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2017, 03:31:14 pm »
What exactly do you mean by compatible with canbus?

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2017, 03:51:21 pm »
Scrub that

I mean I want to be able to wire it into the socket on the bike that my 550 plugs into and turns on with the ignition.

Looking at most sat nav units it looks like I just need to splice the new power lead i to the old one.

Halfords have a good price on the Tom Tom 400.

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2017, 05:30:34 pm »
Thanks

I've always had Tom Tom in my car but I got lucky with a used Zumo 550 for the bike about 3 years ago.  I like the (feee) traffic function but I have never fathomed out the route planning (base camp) and for that reason alone I'm minded to go back to tom tom.


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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2017, 10:22:36 pm »
Must say that I have upgraded to a Zumo 590 but much prefer the display on the older Zumo 550.

I don't want to see the speed limit and other information that is squeezed into the 590 display and is for me not easily read.
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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2017, 08:48:05 am »
Must say that I have upgraded to a Zumo 590 but much prefer the display on the older Zumo 550.

I don't want to see the speed limit and other information that is squeezed into the 590 display and is for me not easily read.

Isn't it strange how requirements for a simple navigational aid can differ so much? For me, the speed limit is one of the most essential pieces of information on the screen while I'm on my commute in town. With so many changes of speed limit, with my eyes on the other traffic, pedestrians etc., my mirrors, doing lifesavers and me riding to the conditions, it's really useful to know where I can instantly find the current limit when a plod speed check/camera comes into view.
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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2017, 12:56:33 pm »
Ditto to David's comments!

As a lifelong Garmin user I too am biased!

However, since my beloved Streetpilot 2820 went the way of all flesh (and was then donated to Steve who got it working again and I imagine it still is and will be long after the Pyramids have crumbled to dust) and I bought a 660, I have never been down so many blind alleys, taken so many unnecessary 'long' cuts, been down so many green lanes which a m/crosser would struggle to get down, been so confused and befuddled in my entire life.

To echo Rae's comments about the routing algorithm, it seems to me that it is either black or white with no common sense thrown in.

In shortest route it will literally take you the shortest way even if no-one in their right mind would go that way.

In fastest route it will take minor road shortcuts that might shave 2 seconds off your time if you don't meet anything coming the other way, again with no common sense thrown in.

Now, I thought this was because I use it in 'motorcycle' mode even in the car. My logic is, I want to have the same information in the same place on the screen so a fleeting glance tells me exactly what I need to know.

But, I have tried it in 'automative' mode and it still puts the bloody car down places I wouldn't go during daylight hours even in my rallying days!

So, do what you will with this user's experience when the time comes to change.

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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 02:01:04 pm »
Must say that I have upgraded to a Zumo 590 but much prefer the display on the older Zumo 550.

I don't want to see the speed limit and other information that is squeezed into the 590 display and is for me not easily read.

Isn't it strange how requirements for a simple navigational aid can differ so much? For me, the speed limit is one of the most essential pieces of information on the screen while I'm on my commute in town. With so many changes of speed limit, with my eyes on the other traffic, pedestrians etc., my mirrors, doing lifesavers and me riding to the conditions, it's really useful to know where I can instantly find the current limit when a plod speed check/camera comes into view.

Have to agree with you on this one, I also find it very useful.

And its great if you go abroad. One of my favourite things is hitting an Autobahn and seeing the speed limit disappear.

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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 09:29:23 pm »
Alternatively use an app on your phone . I have calimoto loaded, the first map of your choice is free then a one off payment for each map or a larger one off for all maps. Not used it on bike yet but it is designed for bikes using non motorway routing. Probably better for days out rather than getting from a to b in a hurry. Not available for Apple at the moment.

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Re: Looking for new sat nav
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2017, 09:52:18 pm »
I have Tomtom and Sygic on my phone and the problem with using a phone as a Sat Nav is the size of the GPS chip in the phone, it's a bit under powered and the positioning is a bit sluggish, this will improve as phones get better but it's not as good as a dedicated unit.