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General forum area => Tyres => Topic started by: raesewell on March 11, 2021, 09:54:57 am

Title: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 11, 2021, 09:54:57 am
It's tyre time again, Some of the usual suppliers seem to have stopped selling bike tyres, Tyreleader, Black Circles have very limited choice. Alltyres365 seem to be unavailable on everything. So I have ended up ordering from Mytyres.co.uk

I went for Pirelli Angel GT (A) while they are still available £214.08 delivered and I'll get my local bike tyre shop to fit them when the time comes.
I bought my last set in July 2019 at £210.93 they have lasted about 10,000 miles which is the most I have ever got from a set of tyres.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Phmode on March 11, 2021, 11:28:59 am
I guess demand is outstripping supply and like most things, tyre production is probably down with illness keeping staff off work.

I would have thought that there would have been stock that retailers were glad to see go, unless they already all went...
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: revd on March 12, 2021, 07:03:45 pm
www.fwr.co.uk usually have stuff in stock. 
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 12, 2021, 07:16:08 pm
www.fwr.co.uk usually have stuff in stock.
Thanks for the link, however the tyres I ordered would have cost £258 as opposed to the £210 I have paid, that's a lot of Bank of England drinking vouchers.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: black-k1 on March 12, 2021, 09:12:13 pm
www.fwr.co.uk usually have stuff in stock.

I use their ride in ride out service and would recommend them.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: chriscanning on March 12, 2021, 09:26:43 pm
I’ve found motorcycling is just like so many other things in life what you know takes you so far, who you know takes you a lot further, and tend to buy stuff when it appears at the right money when the phone rings not when I need it, but 210 quid for a pair of tyres plus fitting  :o blimey my mates are good too me.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: revd on March 13, 2021, 07:09:40 am
I use either Watford Tyres or FWR, my options are fairly limited.  I've got Metz Z7's fitted at the moment, but would probably stump up for PR5's or the equivalent sports tyre as I no longer brave the horrible conditions unless necessary.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 13, 2021, 07:49:26 am
What is a typical price you pay Chris ?
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: chriscanning on March 13, 2021, 11:09:35 am
Blimey i’m Not getting into things like that, I haven’t spent the last 50 years getting my foot in many doors, I have to say it works both ways, there is also a element of pure chance involved and while it would be interesting for some folk, my previous experience of when folk find out who I have connections with are more than happy to shove it up my ass at some time so it remains ‘It is what it is’

Always amuses folk when they walk into the garage current ‘Stock’ is 6 rears and 3 fronts mainly Power RS which is my current fad.

Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 13, 2021, 11:54:12 am
I'm not sure why you would mention it Chris if you don't want people to know. It takes all sorts eh.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: chriscanning on March 13, 2021, 01:58:45 pm
It takes all sorts eh.

You mean like buying your tyres else where and then having the brass neck to go to your local bike tyre shop to have them fitted, paying or not your dead right.

Where we differ i’d Have been buying my tyres from that shop and over the years expected a deal as time went on, and then you’d be in the boat as me, where it’s got as much to do with turning stock over as much as profit.

But hey your the one paying through the nose not me.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2021, 02:31:09 pm
I don't think Rae was asking for your top secret connections and methods and so forth Chris, he was just asking how much you pay if 210 GBP caused you such shock.

I don't mind letting everyone on here know I often pay £0 for eggs. But you don't need to know why ;). (hint Bob Carolgees)
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 13, 2021, 03:17:52 pm
Nicely put Matt  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: chriscanning on March 13, 2021, 04:20:22 pm

I don't mind letting everyone on here know I often pay £0 for eggs. But you don't need to know why ;). (hint Bob Carolgees)

Matt

The way it works is very simple if I give you a price for the eggs i’m Buying and you say you get them cheaper.....then logic says so can if i’m Prepared to get off my arse and find e’m or realise with some ducking and diving it’s possible ...or at the very least it gives me a bargaining chip because I know they can be found cheaper.

Non of which means I expect you to hand feed me...I can do that myself thank you very much.

As I had pointed out out today ‘You’ve got to go some to beat the net’ and that’s a trader saying that.....that’s tyres not eggs...., but completely pointless untill you can get them fitted for free, otherwise you are back to playing the long game with your local tyre man.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: richtea on March 13, 2021, 04:53:10 pm
If you pay over the odds then have a reason to do so - otherwise pay the minimum.

One of those reasons to pay over the odds might be support local shops, or support a specific shop of choice.
However, for a motorbike, locality is neither here nor there, since you can normally ride to another dealer/fitter.

Another reason might be for safety (or perceived safety). I go to Wheelhouse Tyres because I trust them, and I definitely pay above the internet price (£289 fitted). However, that's my call.

If Rae has no affinity to the local tyre seller / fitter, so be it. The fitter will still make a profit from the fitting, assuming he's not cocked up his pricing.
A smart fitter might enquire what price Rae got the tyres for and see if he could match them the next time around - thus increasing his profit.
If he's not making a profit, he's likely to go out of business, and Rae will have to go elsewhere, possibly spending a bit more fuel at a higher price - but that's a market economy for you.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: farmer on March 13, 2021, 05:05:19 pm
are there mind games going on here...i'm getting a sore head trying to arrange some of these words into a sentence...
i think whats going on...and correct me if i'm wrong as you all usually do, chriscanning dosn't want to discuss his tyre prices...but does want to discuss general tyre prices. fair enough but i would have thought the "fellowship of the forum" would be a good place to give an idea of best price to the members who are in general helpful to each other, we all have our areas where we have specific info which may one day be just what someone else needs. i forget what i paid for my tyres but i could look it up...and would, i do however remember leaving them in to be fitted and coming home with three nice lumps of paint off my rear rim, he's named on here, not to get at him, but other members here helped me and i thought it only fair to give them the heads up.
fitting your own tyres is pretty simple ...just take your time and use a couple of rags on the tyre irons, that's what i'm back doing.
that is the end of todays sermon.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2021, 07:19:12 pm
are there mind games going on here...i'm getting a sore head trying to arrange some of these words into a sentence...
...

Haha me too man, me too. But the main thing is almost everyone is paying too much for their tyres. And they should feel bad. Especially me and Rich who are probably winning in stimulating the local economy :D.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Phmode on March 14, 2021, 11:26:47 am
It's a lovely ride down to Micheldever Matt. Over to Baughurst, down through Kingsclere and the twisties south of Overton are excellent. And even better on the way back.

I never had a cause for concern with their tyre bay guys, all bikers with good knowledge and great care.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Matt on March 14, 2021, 12:22:31 pm
It's a lovely ride down to Micheldever Matt. Over to Baughurst, down through Kingsclere and the twisties south of Overton are excellent. And even better on the way back.

I never had a cause for concern with their tyre bay guys, all bikers with good knowledge and great care.

Ah yes! I recall taking one of the K bikes to them once! Was indeed a nice ride over that way :). The guy was nice enough to remind me about the leaves all over the apron as well as the normal "remember new tyres have cat grease on them" line :).

Don't let me forget about Micheldelver next time round! :P
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: richtea on March 14, 2021, 05:57:06 pm
It's a lovely ride down to Micheldever Matt. Over to Baughurst, down through Kingsclere and the twisties south of Overton are excellent. And even better on the way back.

Baughurst. I think that's probably the first time I've ever seen Baughurst in any thread. Ever. Not just in EuroK.
I used to walk home from Baughurst every day from 7-11 years. 1.1 miles was a bloody long way for little legs. Across the county line - Hants -> Berks. Parental abuse I'd call it. Or neglect. Probably why I like cycling and thus motorbikes.

Micheldever are good, I agree. They own my local car tyre place.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: Phmode on March 15, 2021, 10:59:15 am
They own Bathwick Tyres in Glos. as well. And they fitted the wrong tyres to the car last year  :adolf:

Appearances and all that.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 17, 2021, 04:28:38 pm
The saga continues. The front tyre turned up today, unfortunately it was the Angel GT non "A" so I sent an email to make sure they didn't make the same mistake with the rear. After a quick phone call to a pleasant young lady in Germany they are picking up the the wrong tyre on Monday and because we couldn't determine stock of the "A" variant I cancelled the whole order and being as they had not charged my card yet the search starts again. I may have to capitulate and go for the Angel GT II "A"

C'est la bleedin' vie as they say  :-\
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: TomL on March 17, 2021, 05:00:40 pm
All write ups suggest that the II is as good as the original Pirelli Angel GT.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 17, 2021, 05:10:44 pm
I'm sure it is Tom, the GT was more tyre than I could handle and they have dropped in price now the IIs are out. I have since had a conversation with a guy at M & P and they don't have a front in stock but will order it for me and it now means I can get a front and rear Angel GT (A) for 190 quid. Happy days, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: farmer on March 18, 2021, 02:41:48 pm
good price, i think my avon's were £230 fitted.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 18, 2021, 02:58:39 pm
I am a big Avon fan, I tried the Spirit ST a couple of years ago. A good tyre that did all you asked of it. The Angel GTs give me much better mileage.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: farmer on March 18, 2021, 03:57:53 pm
i caught out going no a weekend away and needed a tyre in a hurry, only option available was from a young fella who races near me. i got presented with a part worn, very purple avon. felt like i was on a different bike and impressed all who saw it including the m.o.t. man. they may have thought i was responsible for superb cornering, who's to know.
i've been on avon's ever since and they just inspire me with confidence, i don't mind losing a few miles wear for good grip. it may be just in the mind but that's an important place too.
that said the angel's must be impressing you too.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 18, 2021, 04:10:41 pm
I know what you mean about confidence in a tyre. My favourite Avon tyre was the Storm Ultra 2 until they did away with it.

However the Angel GTs have fantastic grip wet and dry and are also very confidence inspiring. The set I have on now have given me about 10,000 miles. The set of Angel GTs I have coming might well be the last as they are just about all gone now. Next time I may be forced to go with the GT II which I also hear good things about.
Title: Re: Tyre time again
Post by: raesewell on March 31, 2021, 02:05:47 pm
M&P had to order in the front tyre for me and they are now paid for and on their way to me, for a better price than before £173.68.  :winkthumbs: