Time for a new lid... C5 or Quantic

[andym2]

In the end I think it's actually the D rings that make all the difference.

To what? (Quality? Comfort?)

Oh, and do tell us how you get on with it! Ta.

The first thing I thought when I tried on the Arai was that I preferred the D rings. Logically they make little difference, but it just felt better.

I will report back further when I've tried riding with the Arai. I took the K to be MOT'd yesterday; all of 2 miles but it looks like I've been rallying, so I'm not in a rush to get out until the roads dry out a bit.

[chriscanning]

Very early on remember the classic...one either has a Shoei head or an Arai head.

Both of us had used Arai RX7’s since the mid 90’s guess we change them every 5 years or so.

Always found it tricky getting the 2 lines of electrical tape at the top of the visor at the right height.

[richtea]

Very early on remember the classic...one either has a Shoei head or an Arai head.

Or an AGV head.
I was an Arai head but I think my nose grew and grew.

Yours,
Pinocchio

[Phmode]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

[richtea]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

Small, simple, cheap, efficient, perfectly adjustable every time.

And a car has more space than is available under my chin.

Happy Christmas Brian!

[NIBS]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

D-ring or Double-D ring fasteners are one of the main – and best and simplest – types of helmet fasteners you’ll find on modern motorcycle helmets.  Bar none.

[Phmode]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

D-ring or Double-D ring fasteners are one of the main – and best and simplest – types of helmet fasteners you’ll find on modern motorcycle helmets.  Bar none.

In your opinion. Too fiddly by far. I've done my chinstrap up and and am on the bike in the time it takes your average biker to phaff with the D rings. And undoing them is so frustrating difficult it is easier to leave the helmet on till the next time I go out on the bike.

Nowhere near as user-friendly as the ratchet strap on my Schuberths in my opinion.

[black-k1]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

D-ring or Double-D ring fasteners are one of the main – and best and simplest – types of helmet fasteners you’ll find on modern motorcycle helmets.  Bar none.

In your opinion. Too fiddly by far. I've done my chinstrap up and and am on the bike in the time it takes your average biker to phaff with the D rings. And undoing them is so frustrating difficult it is easier to leave the helmet on till the next time I go out on the bike.

Nowhere near as user-friendly as the ratchet strap on my Schuberths in my opinion.

I agree with Brian. While double D rings are cheap, they are no where near as easy to usd as the ratchet on my Schuberth. While double D rings ard "infinitely adjustable" I find that my head doesn't change shape or size enough to require such adjustment

[andym2]

I find the exact opposite. The C3 isn't too bad, but the catch on Shoei I find fiddly to use and difficult to adjust properly. Maybe after 30 years of d-rings it's just what I'm used to.

[NIBS]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

D-ring or Double-D ring fasteners are one of the main – and best and simplest – types of helmet fasteners you’ll find on modern motorcycle helmets.  Bar none.

In your opinion. Too fiddly by far. I've done my chinstrap up and and am on the bike in the time it takes your average biker to phaff with the D rings. And undoing them is so frustrating difficult it is easier to leave the helmet on till the next time I go out on the bike.

Nowhere near as user-friendly as the ratchet strap on my Schuberths in my opinion.

I agree with Brian. While double D rings are cheap, they are no where near as easy to usd as the ratchet on my Schuberth. While double D rings ard "infinitely adjustable" I find that my head doesn't change shape or size enough to require such adjustment

How easy does it need to be? Its second nature and I don't even need to think about it. Fit issues can occur when your linings in the helmet become compressed and you are mid teeth on the ratchet to be comfortable . No such issues with D rings...." infinitely adjustable". I am glad black-k's head doesn't change shape or size. 

[Matt]

I like the D ring method as I feel like a very special young man using a clever bit of kit that none of my passengers can work without my help :p.

[Phmode]

I've never understood the fascination with D rings. Way too fiddly for me and all the ones I struggled with in my youth used to work loose.

If they are such a great idea why don't seat belts have them. Competition cars could easily have them but none do.

D-ring or Double-D ring fasteners are one of the main – and best and simplest – types of helmet fasteners you’ll find on modern motorcycle helmets.  Bar none.

In your opinion. Too fiddly by far. I've done my chinstrap up and and am on the bike in the time it takes your average biker to phaff with the D rings. And undoing them is so frustrating difficult it is easier to leave the helmet on till the next time I go out on the bike.

Nowhere near as user-friendly as the ratchet strap on my Schuberths in my opinion.

I agree with Brian. While double D rings are cheap, they are no where near as easy to usd as the ratchet on my Schuberth. While double D rings ard "infinitely adjustable" I find that my head doesn't change shape or size enough to require such adjustment

And you still have hair David. When it is gone, you will find your head changes shape and size even less...

[TomL]

I became a convert to Schuberth helmets when I started doing their Better Rider Training Courses at the Nürburgring. Each course included a brand new Schuberth helmet.

I also have an Arai Tour X4 which I like to wear on the GS. The peak is so good for blotting out the sun.

[kfrogzx7]

I know it's quite late in the discussion but I wanted to add that one of the main things I like about my Bell Race Star is the Class 1 Optics visor. Now I don't know whether it really means all that much, except a year or so ago it was touted as the only visor of that quality on the market, but I do notice a difference in use. Well, let me clarify ( pun ?!! ), the visor seems particularly "neutral" to look thru', particularly after long days in the saddle, so I feel it does have some merit, for me at least - less tiring on the eyes.
I wonder whether it really is a better quality optical visor and whether other manufacturers will be following suit ?

[kfrogzx7]

Well, I see a lot of other manufacturers also have Class 1 visors ( Schuberth, Shoei, AGV et al ) so they're not unique to Bell, but anyway I think mine makes a difference and now I wouldn't want anything less.