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Title: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Ned1 on April 11, 2017, 10:53:03 am
HI all,

VOZZ rear access motorcycle helmet- features and benefits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnydMibNojo

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Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: raesewell on April 11, 2017, 11:10:48 am
I saw these a few months ago, I seem to remember they were pretty expensive. They don't mention price in the video. With the rolled under contour of the helmet, using a clamp on intercom could be a challenge.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Eyore on April 11, 2017, 01:47:30 pm
You'd need eyes in the back of your head for that. ::)
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 11, 2017, 02:00:18 pm
Interesting that safety testing and certification weren't mentioned in the vid.  ::)

Good for those who wear glasses and prefer a full-face helmet.
Less good for those who prefer a flip front, like moi  8)

A flip-back anyone?

As for the mic position, I can always stick mine down the back of my pants and it would work even better than it does on the helmet  ;D
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 11, 2017, 07:20:12 pm
Failed in safety tests , imho , this would have the same future like the Scully.  Closed for business.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: richtea on April 11, 2017, 09:28:54 pm
Waaay back in the 80s there were French helmets with two 'U'/ horsehoe parts to clip around your neck instead of a chinstrap.

One 'U' (or rather 'n') hung down from the front of the helmet and one from the back, and you simply flipped them both up to meet in the middle under your chin and they clipped in to the main shell to create a full solid oval around the base of the helmet.

Very tidy, very quick to pop on, but I never saw them in the UK, and I can't find them on the net.

Never seriously tempted though, because they were polycarbonate only, and that seemed a step backwards to a fibreglass boy...
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 11, 2017, 11:31:17 pm
I remember them well, but as you say, never actually saw one in the flesh, or rather round the flesh  8)
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 12, 2017, 08:24:25 am
After graduating this past week fm the european college of sports and exercise physicians course, desided and for serius reasons that only helmets with approved certificates fm all repeat all screening and research organizations and institutes will be used. My God what crap is in the market now days,  new it,  but the way it was confirmed to my eyes,  crippy and scary too.
By the way racing jelmets have long straps to assist paramedics in removing them after an accident. So only those for me fm now on.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: raesewell on April 12, 2017, 08:40:57 am
So you have yet another qualification then Costas?
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 12, 2017, 02:50:44 pm
The internet is a source of all things  8)
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 12, 2017, 04:20:28 pm
Another one yes. Next week the course for immediate response and first aid delivery to youngsters less than 12 years of age. Then comes the trauma session for gunshots and generally wounds inflicted by weapons of all kinds including eod devices.  Similar courses had attended back when was in the army including the UKArmy the USA and the German one all extremely helpful and interesting.
Now in this troubled times feel the need to learn and be able to assist if needed.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 12, 2017, 08:19:30 pm
Very responsible and community spirited my friend.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: richtea on April 12, 2017, 09:44:10 pm

By the way racing jelmets have long straps to assist paramedics in removing them after an accident. So only those for me fm now on.


I always assumed the strap would get cut. No point messing about - the helmet isn't valuable once it's been down the road. Or am I misunderstanding your 'long strap'?

Anyway, thinking about cutting valuable straps here's a dangerous lady about to modify my AGV. Eek...

(http://www.poqit.com/strap-cutting.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 12, 2017, 10:32:08 pm
I've alwayd admired those who can wear the Cyclops look with such aplomb  8)

Brian (who thinks you should be grateful she is only taking the snippers to your helmet, as it were  :o )
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 13, 2017, 01:16:27 pm
We've been instructed not to cut any straps just unbuckl them carefully whilst securing head and avoiding any movement.
We do cut them if they happen to prevent respiration ,movement, acess to a wound, or somehow create any troubles to the victim.
Am talking about the holding long chin straps used mainly in racing helmets, which may be a small trouble to buckle but thay are the ones providing a better protection.
Many more helmets are equipt with the easy acess buckle and short straps. Those short ones although seem that they would be easier for paramedic to remove , can be proved a nightmare as their straps are not long enough to assist in pressing the side cushion pillows and secure helmet in his/her hands, the hole prosedures becomes more difficult and needs more attention.
Removing a helmet is a slow prosedure and aims at securing head and spine. And ofcourse needs two trained persons to perform it.
Helmet follows rider to ER at the nearest hospital as it might help doctors assist in evaluating the mechanisms of the crash and it's consequences.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: richtea on April 13, 2017, 02:26:37 pm
Good explanation Costas - understood!
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: markyates on April 13, 2017, 04:58:23 pm
My Shoei GT Air has QR cheek pads that can be removed from underneath with the helmet still on, to help paramedics get the thing off your head.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on April 13, 2017, 05:41:22 pm
Is there anything on the outside of the shell to tell the paramedics about them and how to remove them?
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 14, 2017, 09:48:03 am
My Shoei GT Air has QR cheek pads that can be removed from underneath with the helmet still on, to help paramedics get the thing off your head.
You beat me in that, as it was demonstrated and at the same time it was announced that more companies will follow this design.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Blobby on April 19, 2017, 06:57:51 am
Adjustable chin cup, so you won't be talking then or hurling abuse at car drivers.
Long hair or people with a big bouffant of hair, wouldn't it get trapped?
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Costas on April 19, 2017, 04:07:28 pm
It was indeed much harder to remove a helmet fm women due to hair.
Update
Shuberth, HELD, KJC and BMW helmets have already adapted to the new easy removable pads design .Italian brands to follow .
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: markyates on May 17, 2017, 09:38:49 am
Is there anything on the outside of the shell to tell the paramedics about them and how to remove them?
There's a label on the bottom of each pad next to the fabric loop you actually pull to release, and a sticker on each side of the shell in the relevant position.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: markyates on May 17, 2017, 09:52:54 pm
Sorry, I lied, there's only the stickers on the shell, but the pully-things are red....
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Phmode on May 17, 2017, 10:44:08 pm
So is the one on my Schuberth  8)
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: richtea on August 02, 2019, 10:41:49 pm
Well, those Vozz helmets have belatedly appeared on sale in the UK, so presumably it's passed our ACU gold safety test:
https://mailchi.mp/adventure-spec/vozz-helmets

Price is £549:
https://www.helmetcity.co.uk/vozz-rs-1-0-stealth-black/

I still like the idea of a strapless closure system, but not necessarily with a joint right round the helmet. But then again, I'm not sold on system / flip helmets for the same reason.

Still, one to watch.
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: raesewell on August 02, 2019, 11:01:54 pm
Too rich for my blood  :o
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: Andym535 on August 03, 2019, 11:15:29 am
No mention of ACU Gold, just ECE 22.05 which seems to be the EU standard. No good for track days then, but I guess they are road legal?
Title: Re: Rear access motorcycle helmet
Post by: richtea on August 04, 2019, 10:44:54 am
Good point, Andy. ECE 22.05 is OK for road use:
https://www.gov.uk/motorcycle-helmet-law

All helmets worn on UK roads must meet one of the following:
 -   British Standard BS 6658:1985 and carry the BSI Kitemark
 -   UNECE Regulation 22.05
 -   a European Economic Area member standard offering at least the same safety and protection as BS 6658:1985, and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark

But not OK for road racing, as you say:
https://www.acu.org.uk/Uploaded/1/Documents/2019%20Handbook/06ACU-HANDBOOK2019road-racing.pdf

14.2   HELMETS
Helmets bearing the current ACU gold stamp and in sound condition and properly fitted must be worn by all riders and passengers while practising and racing. Overseas riders may use helmets as approved by their own FMN.