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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2019, 10:31:35 pm »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2019, 11:23:05 pm »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

Especially when that sidestand leaves you on the 'wrong' side when you step off when on the continent. Fine for the UK though.

I know - have two and they auto-extend! How does that sound, Brian?



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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2019, 05:30:52 am »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

That's an easy one to answer: Weight and space. Have you looked at just how small, light and optimised sports bikes are these days?

It's no just the weight of the stand but the strengthening of the mounting points to support the bike (with rider and pillion because someone will sit on the bike on the stand) while it rocks backwards and forwards on the stand. It also has to be mounted in a way the doesn't interfere with cornering while still having a suitable lever to ensure the bike can be put on the stand.

Gone are the days of roadside tube replacement so, for most bikers, there really is no justification for a centerstand. A set of cheap paddock stands allow home wheel replacement and chain maintenance so, for most, a centre stand serves no purpose.
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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2019, 10:10:05 am »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

That's an easy one to answer: Weight and space. Have you looked at just how small, light and optimised sports bikes are these days?

It's no just the weight of the stand but the strengthening of the mounting points to support the bike (with rider and pillion because someone will sit on the bike on the stand) while it rocks backwards and forwards on the stand. It also has to be mounted in a way the doesn't interfere with cornering while still having a suitable lever to ensure the bike can be put on the stand.

Gone are the days of roadside tube replacement so, for most bikers, there really is no justification for a centerstand. A set of cheap paddock stands allow home wheel replacement and chain maintenance so, for most, a centre stand serves no purpose.

That is NO excuse and you know it  8)

Not all bikes are pared down rockets. A second sidestand would weigh no more than my lunch, even with the mountings.

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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2019, 10:13:30 am »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

Especially when that sidestand leaves you on the 'wrong' side when you step off when on the continent. Fine for the UK though.

I know - have two and they auto-extend! How does that sound, Brian?

Waaaay off topic. Sorry.

Oh, they exist Richard. I often used to see a disabled / vertically challenged rider in Wales whose bike had two extending arms with wheels that came down when he stopped or trickled along. We just don't need the wheels.

And for those of us who get off on the high side of the bike, we are always on the wrong side in this country.

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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2019, 05:14:45 pm »
I've never understood why ALL bikes have only one side stand and on the same side.

Especially when that sidestand leaves you on the 'wrong' side when you step off when on the continent. Fine for the UK though.

I know - have two and they auto-extend! How does that sound, Brian?



Waaaay off topic. Sorry.

That got my attention. €50k? Hmm. Wife hates it. Never mind

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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2019, 10:51:43 pm »
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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2019, 11:30:52 pm »
They look great leant over that far.
I'm guessing that with some bodywork around you the fear of falling over might be decreased.

If they do go over, do they land on the retracted wheels, without whacking the body? It looks like it.

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2019, 05:04:36 pm »
You'll lose a couple of fingers following the stupid BMW instructions but it doesn't affect your hamd signals  ::)

Give this a try next time.
Bolt up the stand fully and attach one end of the spring.
Now bend the spring and insert ha-penny coins or thin washers between the opened coils.
Now let the spring relax and bend it the other way to add coins on the other side.

This extends the spring enough to allow you to just slip the second end into place.

Then pop the bike onto the stand and all the coins/washers will drop free as the spring is extended.

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Re: Centre stand? Comfort seat?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2019, 05:12:49 pm »
And I was wondering about a “ comfort” seat, power bronze or top sellerie from France?

I've been using a Sargent for the last couple of years and love it for distance work, however the stock seat allows you to move around a bit more and I prefer it for trackdays and 'spirited' riding.  :-X