EuroKClub
Welcome to the BMW K1200 K1300 K1600 Forum => Gripes, Bitches and Whinges! => Topic started by: drumwrecker on May 22, 2016, 09:34:50 pm
-
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2016-05-21/injunction-taken-out-against-bikers-in-harlow/
-
I feel a 'Reclaim Harlow' mass hamburger eating assembly coming on!
PS One wonders quite where three police motorcyclists get their authorisation from. Or the local chapter of IAM. Or the local bike school instructor!
-
I hope I am wrong, but this covers part of the M11 >:(
-
Harlow will have to be traffic jam free or "You're all nicked"
-
"Two or more",' Brian! So, only solo riding is OK.
-
Without knowing the full in and outs of the local issue down at Harlow, round here my wife and I have a word in the ear of our local councillor( Waste of time talking to the Police ) about Twatish car drivers in the main (The odd bike) blasting through our village and surrouding area in their lowered overloud heaps. It is a bloody nuisance and dangerous when they go like loons. So I sympathise with Councils having a go, the real issue is a lack of Roads Policing, in this county apparently at night one Road Policing officer south one north of the patch for a one million people, that is a scandle and a tragedy waiting to happen. I come clean I detest loud bikes and cars including those daft Harleys and canned sportsbike or GS with their Ackro even, for me get a decibel tester on them and fine until it makes these pudding heads go and shut the .... up !
-
I'll come clean as well!! Ride in a group :o I'd rather have my finger nails pulled out cuz the only bugger that's riding at the pace he wants is the one at the front and everyone else is playing catch up,start A and go to B and I'll see you there so 3 cheers for Harrow can we roll it out across the rest of the country :)
-
Funny that, cos all the groups I ride with the guy at the front is the one who isn't riding at the pace he wants . If he did, you'd never see him after the first set of lights or group of cars or even the average town.
Now, they aren't all goodie two shoes out there and I don't ride with some groups I used to cos they were all loons who didn't know, well, anything really!
Keeping a group together while making progress is a skill and an art and when done properly it makes me smile, especially as I am normally tail-end Charlie, and still playing catch-up ;D
Brian (who loves riding alone too but agrees group riding isn't for everyone 8) )
-
;D 8)
-
The wrinklies leader and Tail End Charlie were top boys at the job (Who were they ??) and I am looking forward to being part of that again but I have been on a number of other group rides first one (Not Euro Club) was insanity itself with no system or any common sense folks were lost in the middle of the Alps and falling off their bikes trying to assist others who had fallen off their bikes ! There again there is the too slow brigade like the cruiser boys 50 or so of them mimicing a large slow moving slug at 50 mph if you are lucky on M'ws and DC's they just piss everyone off as the other motorists jostle to get passed them, even granny in the 20 year old micra goes for the overtake pased these bunch of wooses ! Making progress is the order of the day.
-
Have look at the bottom of TomL's posts cuz that just about sums it up.
-
TomL hasn't posted anything in this thread or do I need to go to Specsavers?
Actually I do need to go to Specsavers as they sent me a reminder the other day ;D
-
You really do need to go to Spec Savers cuz it's on every post he's ever done on here ;)
Or do I need to say read the bottom of any post by him.
-
Have look at the bottom of TomL's posts cuz that just about sums it up.
Seconded on TomL! My favourite strapline.
Although, unlike Chris, I don't mind a little bit of group riding. The last one kept my fuel consumption nice and low. :o
-
Ah Toms Signature why didn't you say.
-
I did !!! Not only you don't read my posts you don't his either.
-
It's like this Chris part of my remit as a mod is to read all the posts and I must admit that sometimes I skim read and maybe don't absorb every morsel for which I apologise. I'm just a mere mortal 8)
-
Stop making excuses Rae, you're just like the rest of us, sort of human'ish!
-
How dare you!!! Don't ever call me "ish" again ;) ;)
-
;D ;D ;D ;D
-
Have look at the bottom of TomL's posts cuz that just about sums it up.
It was something that a much quicker and better rider than me said many years ago.
-
A signature used by a guy on the BM riders forum
Most motorcycle accidents are caused by the nut that connects the seat to the handlebars.
Never a truer word.
-
I have a query??? You are riding through Harlow, on your own, minding your own business and at a junction or traffic lights you catch up with a couple of other bikes. The way is clear, lights change and you all move off together until the next junc/lights where you pick up a couple more bikes etc. Does this then constitute 'group riding'?
Yours confused of Worksop ???
8)
-
Another question that comes to mind is, what about funeral processions they can be very big, are they all nicked too?
-
It's a regulation that simply cannot be enforced to my eyes.
-
You are right Costas, it will be amusing to see them try. I can just imagine it now, group of bikers get stopped and they all say who's he don't know him he just started following me.
-
I still feel a 'Reclaim Harlow' ride out coming on 8)
-
I still feel a 'Reclaim Harlow' ride out coming on 8)
It would be quite a coincidence if we both went to Harlow the same time. ;D
Be a real shame if some yobbo pulled my baffle out on the way.
-
...and mine. And Tom's, assuming it got on his nerves so much he actually put it back!
One wonders what the 'exact' separation must be between riders, well, bikes actually, so you are not classed as a 'group'? Let's face it, half a dozen locals could take up a mile on the road and bring the 'ole of 'arrow to grinding halt!
I think we should also find out who issues authorisations and then we could all submit a new authorisation request every day till the borough collapses under the weight of its own ill-thought through bureaucracy!
-
One wonders what the 'exact' separation must be between riders, well, bikes actually, so you are not classed as a 'group'? Let's face it, half a dozen locals could take up a mile on the road and bring the 'ole of 'arrow to grinding halt!
I like that. I'm quite prepared to ride to Harlow and stay (let's say) 50m from the next bike ahead, in a line of 100 bikes, and just potter round and round, and round.
-
Hell hath no fury like the pipe and slipper brigade scorned e'h ;)
-
Just been out practicing my really slow riding in the dark, so no one would laugh at me....
-
Harlow Council have responded http://www.harlow.gov.uk/pr16-26
Note that's Harlow and not Harrow ::)
-
Sounds like 'Oops!' to me!
-
hundreds of young people
Bloody young people with their disco dancing and their switchblades!
-
See all clear now, if you are old you can ride if you are young you will be taken care off by police.
-
I have contacted the BMF, Harlow Council and Essex Police. Just got this back from Harlow Council:
Clarification on unauthorised ride outs injunction
Harlow Council has received a number of concerns and questions raised in response to the injunction granted by Chelmsford County Court on 19 May 2016.
The purpose of the injunction is not and has never been about stopping those responsible riders or drivers from enjoying using their vehicles in a lawful manner.
Harlow Council is very sorry that this issue has upset and angered the wider biking community. This was never our intention and we hope the below helps explain the reasons for applying for the injunction and who it is ultimately targeted at.
Harlow Council and Essex Police wants to make it clear that anyone riding bikes lawfully in Harlow on the road to either meet up with friends, including driving in a convoy; drive through the town; learn to ride or teach others, or take part in a charity event, will not be served with the injunction. This is the same for anyone driving a motor vehicle.
If an event is to be organised for charity or any other occasion, which would mean a significant number of people attending, then the Council via contact@harlow.gov.uk and Police should be informed so arrangements can be made to support the event.
The main aim of the injunction was to stop an unauthorised ride out event taking place on Saturday 21 May 2016, which would have attracted hundreds of young people on motorbikes and bystanders. Following a previous event held, both the Council and the Police had serious concerns about the danger this event would pose to the public, to those taking part and the wider impact on the community. Despite the Council and Police's attempts to work with and talk to the organisers there was no response. As a result of the injunction this event did not go ahead.
The injunction also aims to target a growing problem of groups of people creating a nuisance by riding bikes illegally on the streets, public highways and on green spaces in Harlow. It is these unauthorised ride outs, and these only, which are the target of this injunction. Not only do these unauthorised ride outs cause nuisance to communities, it also puts the safety of the wider public and the riders at serious risk. Concerns are being raised by Harlow residents about persistent unauthorised gatherings causing a nuisance and antisocial behaviour, and the Council, supported by the Police, had to listen and act.
The injunction will therefore only be served and enforced on people who are gathering and causing a nuisance and carrying out antisocial behaviour.
The injunction does not distract from the Police's existing powers. It is simply one of a number of measures in place to deal with this specific problem being experienced in Harlow.
This year the Essex Police have received 121 calls about motorbikes, quad bikes, pit bikes and mopeds being ridden illegally or in an antisocial manner in Harlow between March and May. This compares to 74 during the same time last year.
The Council and the Police are working together to target the issue and have written to all parents/guardians of year 11 pupils and above in the town and attended school assemblies. The Police are also patrolling hotspot areas in the town, seizing bikes being ridden illegally and issuing warning notices under Section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002. We are also working with petrol stations to crack down on petrol being sold to under-16s and are distributing leaflets to young people.
Statement from Inspector, Paul Maleary of Essex Police:
“Essex Police fully supports the injunction held by Harlow Council. This clarification statement makes it clear that neither Essex Police or Harlow Council intend to target those persons engaged in lawful activity. Our response to any activity will continue to be proportionate and ensure that quality of life for Harlow residents is maintained.”
Should you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact us.
Thanks,
Contact Harlow
Harlow Council, Civic Centre, The Water Gardens, Harlow, Essex, CM20 1WG
Contact Harlow - 01279 446655
-
All of that was in the link I posted.
-
::) ;D ;D ;D ;D :o 8)