Sena 20S. RIP

[Phmode]

After five and a half years and having been used about 20 times, last night my Sena 20S failed to respond when I plugged the charger cable in...in fact all five charger cables with two different Apple-type mains adapters.

It was working fine the last time it was used on the Wrinklies and now appears to be deceased.

So, having spent 2015's pension pot to move from the stone age Autocom to the space age, I now have a weirdly shaped paper weight. If only I used paper to need weighing down 

Update to save wading through this whole thread.

A new battery fixed the problem!

This is the Amazon link for the higher capacity replacement battery for the Sena 20S...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Virtual-Channel-External-Adapter/dp/B07TZBRS82/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Sena%2B20S%2Bbattery%2BLP%2B602540&qid=1615981763&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFRM0MwQkFCNDBQVlYmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzMjU0NzcyNFgwT0w3SUVJMlMwJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAzMjU1MjgzUU1TNVVMWlpYSFhZJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

...and this is the link to a YouTube video showing how to get to the battery...

https://youtu.be/u8chy14Btg4

Taking the thing apart is easy, the part where he tells you 'pop off' the jog wheel was anything but easy. So much force needed that I imagined the wheel was self-destructing. And to a point it did.

Some tiny plastic 'lugs' disasociated themselves from the inside of the wheel but it took so much force to 'pop' it back on that I'm sure it will never come off again.

This guy in the video mentions that the battery is slightly larger, physically, than the original. However, mine was exactly the same size, just 750mA rather than 650mA. Also, there are the same batteries available on eBay but without the connector so be warned.

[Swindon Andy]

If it's the battery that has died, there are replacements for sale and vids on how to do it.

[raesewell]

Oh dear, my condolences Brian. As suggested a new battery might be needed.

[Phmode]

Thanks for that Andy.

Not much of an advert for Sena. I'm thinking of going back to tin cans and knicker elastic...

And I blame you Rae, seeing as you are the inly one who ever touched it to pair it with yours 

[raesewell]

It might be worth contacting Motohaus the UK distributor. I think it died from lack of use 

https://www.motohaus.com/sena-uk-distributor/sena-parts-and-accessories.html

[Phmode]

I think it is a message from the biking gods to stop arsing around with things I'm not good at.

Just went out to pop the big Givi box on the bike and the lock won't engage with the tang...WTF?

[raesewell]

Seized up, lack of use, ride more 

[raesewell]

If Motohaus are unable to help this link might be of interest to you Brian.
https://uk.electronic.partners/services/headphone-repair/recent-headphone-repairs/sena-20s-evo-20s-evo-unknown-repair-in-northallerton-north-yorkshire/

[Phmode]

Well, I'm certainly seized up having been stuck at the top of a long ladder for the last two weeks and I certainly don't get much use. Ride more? If only...

A mercy dash across the black country today to replace an essential tool that commited suicide by jumping off the top of said ladder. Could have been worse, could have been me...

The weird thing is that the box clips onto the Kappa rack on the Honda with no problem and the Givi Business Case clips onto either with ease. It is some sort of weird and very sudden incompatibility between the Givi box and the Givi adapter plate on the AluRack. Bearing in mind it has been on and off that rack regulalrly since 2011 on the K12 and now the K13, tis a mystery.

It finally went on with so much force that the bike almost toppled off its side stand.

Now I have to ride to Brum with a cycle security cable and padlock round the rack and the box handle looking like a reject from a rat-bike meet because it might end up following me down the road at some point and the contents on the return journey will be too valuable to lose.

Let's just hope that my riding skills are not in such a state of disrepair. Maybe a squirt of WD in my tea before I set off will ease me back into it.

[Phmode]

If Motohaus are unable to help this link might be of interest to you Brian.
https://uk.electronic.partners/services/headphone-repair/recent-headphone-repairs/sena-20s-evo-20s-evo-unknown-repair-in-northallerton-north-yorkshire/

Thanks for that Rae. That is going to be next week's challenge. In the meantime I have to find this address in Brum without spoken instructions from the Garmin. Unless I leave the volume on and let everyone else think I'm a plonker. And yes, I know, but they don't need to...

[richtea]

Many 6 year-old phones would be in the same state of dire battery. It's not a bad place to start.
Were they designed to run when connected to the charger? That's also worth a check.

[raesewell]

I have never tried it but I think they do work when charging.

[black-k1]

I think it is a message from the biking gods to stop arsing around with things I'm not good at.

Just went out to pop the big Givi box on the bike and the lock won't engage with the tang...WTF?

Sorry to hear about your Sena unit. As has been said, may be worth looking at a replacement battery.

As for you top box, that is definitely a message from the biking gods ...

[Phmode]

A phone that had only been used occasionally would still be in good fettle. My ancient Orange Nokia which runs the app for the GS-911 and lives on the bike, still keeps a full'ish charge for months when turned off and that was my primary business phone for 2 years back in the day. Even after a year living in my Sargent Pod, when it comes out for its annual charge, it always turns on.

The Sena should show a red LED when charging and a blue one when fully charged or vice-versa. There is no sign of either and the thing won't turn on.

[Phmode]

I think it is a message from the biking gods to stop arsing around with things I'm not good at.

Just went out to pop the big Givi box on the bike and the lock won't engage with the tang...WTF?

Sorry to hear about your Sena unit. As has been said, may be worth looking at a replacement battery.

As for you top box, that is definitely a message from the biking gods ...

I was tempted not to post because I knew you would be claiming it was karma for deigning to fit a top box 

Brian (who really must refresh his emoticons as everyone thinks he love them at the moment)