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General forum area => Oils & Lubricants => Topic started by: oilman on July 29, 2016, 02:24:49 pm

Title: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: oilman on July 29, 2016, 02:24:49 pm
If you would like any oil advice or a recommendation for your car please feel free to ask here and we will get back to you as soon as we can.
 
To help us to give the most accurate advice possible we do need some information about your bike. e.g:

Make:
Model:
Year:
Engine type:
Performance modifications:
Driving style: (road / off-road / track etc)

 
Any oil we recommend is available to buy from us (if you would like to) for delivery throughout the UK and many destinations in Europe. We offer a really extensive range of oils and lubricants from 11 major oil manufacturers at prices much lower than the high street and main dealers. We stock oils and fluids that meet pretty much all manufacturers and international specifications. Our brands include, Silkolene, Fuchs,  Castrol, Motul, Mobil, Millers Oils, Shell and many more.
 
The good news is, now the Club is a member of our club discount scheme you can discounts of at least 10% across our entire range.

To redeem your 10% club discount simply use the following club discount code at the checkout.

EUROK

Once the code is added at the checkout you will then receive your extra 10% club discount. However this discount code cannot be used in conjunction with other offer codes, BUT the code can be used in conjunction with any of our offers on this page HERE (http://www.opieoils.co.uk/t-Current-Offer.aspx) that do not require offer codes.

Any questions please ask here or contact us via email at sales@opieoils.co.uk

Finally, if there are any products we don't stock and you have difficulty getting hold of elsewhere, let us know and we'll see if we can stock them.

We look forward to being of help!

Cheers
Guy, Opie Oils
 
You can also contact us by phone on +44 1209 202944
(All oils recommended are available to buy online at my web site (https://www.opieoils.co.uk/))
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: TomL on July 29, 2016, 02:34:45 pm
Do you have engine oil for a 2015 K1300S that complies fully with the BMW requirements?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Phmode on July 29, 2016, 02:39:58 pm
I had money on it being you that asked the-elephant-in-the-room question Tom!
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: oilman on July 29, 2016, 02:57:05 pm
Do you have engine oil for a 2015 K1300S that complies fully with the BMW requirements?

Afternoon,

The Oil you are looking for  Castrol Power 1 Racing 4T 5w-40  (http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-77367-castrol-power-1-racing-4t-5w-40-fully-synthetic-motorcycle-4-stroke-engine-oil.aspx)

Cheers
Phil
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Phmode on July 29, 2016, 03:21:34 pm
Oh dear, this is going to get messy!
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: TomL on July 29, 2016, 04:51:02 pm
Interesting because my BMW dealer only recommended using BMW Motorrad ADVANTEC Ultimate SAE 5W-40 which has a higher API specification.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: oilman on July 29, 2016, 05:04:38 pm
Hi

Fair enough, but I think that might well be a case of the dealer saying 'This is what you need because this is what we sell.' According to my data, the oil needs to have the specification of API SL and JASO MA or higher, which the Castrol oil meets (it exceeds the MS spec, it's MA2). Also, it's what a lot of BMW dealers were selling until the commercial tie up they had with Castrol ended.

Cheers

Tim
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: drumwrecker on July 29, 2016, 08:49:43 pm
But what about the clutch lubrication and those special additives introduced to stop it failing?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Costas on July 29, 2016, 09:50:44 pm
Well spot it man , the additive is what we are looking for. And for what we pay a lot of money. Speaking someone who had spent a fortune in oils fm importing directly fm the states amsoil and quacker state not to mention q8 or other as far as Japan. All without any change to oil consumption on k13 bikes and with no effect on k12 clutch slippage. So back to BMW oil sold here fm the company that makes it 5e per litre but without the synthetic polimeric additive added to Poland .
So yes we've done a lot of research and all results and relevant info even a detail analysis of the new BMW oil is posted in technical section for those wanted to investigate further.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Phmode on July 29, 2016, 10:41:42 pm
Didn't I say it was going to get messy?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Bullet on July 29, 2016, 10:50:40 pm
So after reading all that....which oil can be used ??? :o
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on July 29, 2016, 11:25:12 pm
So after reading all that....which oil can be used ??? :o
Ant, don't ask just sit back and watch  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Phmode on July 30, 2016, 12:38:20 am
So after reading all that....which oil can be used ??? :o

As you can deduce from my rather acidic inputs, there isn't a simple answer to your question, nor Tom's, although I think Tom knew that before he asked the question  ::)

Strictly speaking, any modern oil that is recommended by the oil mfr. can be used. However, the devil is in the (hidden) detail!

When BMW were recommending Castrol oils, the one they 'sold' was not, according to them, a standard Castrol mix but rather one with certain magical chemical additives specifically designed to aid the semi-wet clutch squeal and judder problems with which the K13, in some instances, is blessed!

As Opie say, there is a certain degree of, how shall we say, bias, in the BMW recommendation and the stories and claims of the magical properties of the claimed additional additives!

I think that the uber-cautious among us, together with those relying on the BMW extended warranty, will be sticking with the overly expensive BMW supplied lube. Those who eschew the services of the dealer network, do their own servicing and think that Duckhams 20/50 was a perfectly good oil in its day, (and it was unless you ran a Ford and didn't mind the white emulsion in your rocker-box cover) may well be tempted to use the excellent oil recommended by Opie and others.

Brian (who wouldn't want to be the first to attempt to claim on the extended warranty for a damaged clutch/transmission without proof that he had only used BMW recommended oil)

PS I don't know of a case where anyone has determined whether 'oils and lubricants' fall into the same category as 'Genuine and Original BMW parts'.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Bullet on July 30, 2016, 06:51:06 am
Phew !

Well I've been using the one oilman showed fortunately, and its available in French supermarkets, so if anything un-toward happens i will let everyone no.
As far as I'm concerned, if oil of a same or similar spec is used to whats rec. by the manufacturer, changed on or before the due date, everything will hopefully be ok. And thats all you can do.
Rae would have met someone recently who just does exactly that with his FJR, and its now on 237,000 miles !
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on July 30, 2016, 10:16:25 am
I thought he'd only done 225,000  ;D
I've told you a million times not to exaggerate  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: fjtwelve on July 30, 2016, 06:54:26 pm
So at the risk of pouring fuel on to the bonfire, is there a similar recommendation for oil for a 2008 K1200S before I venture down to the sparkly new BMW garage in Falmouth to have my wallet mugged?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Costas on July 31, 2016, 07:51:45 am
There are many but none have the new additive, now if you ask me if this domn think work unfortunately have no answer. On the other hand found that good quality oils are expensive too (AMSOIL) comes to mind. Still agree with you  the price BMW is asking is a clear ripoff.
Having tried all brands am back to OEM and the bike still burns 600 grand per 1000kms.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: oilman on August 01, 2016, 08:47:56 am
So what is this miraculous new additive that they have put in the oil? Is it the same as what would go in other bikes where the oil is shared with the clutch?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on August 01, 2016, 08:51:30 am
BMW won't be telling.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: oilman on August 01, 2016, 10:00:31 am
In that case, I'll just remain sceptical.

Cheers

Tim
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Costas on August 01, 2016, 06:07:50 pm
Full explanation of the additive  to technical section , yes Rae the answer is there but you ride a Yamaha (now) that's why you do not care about us the lost children of BMW .
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on August 01, 2016, 06:59:22 pm
I stand corrected Costas  ;D and yes you are right I have nothing to worry about these days the faithful FJR just keeps going without complaint.  :P :-X
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Costas on August 01, 2016, 08:38:38 pm
 ;Da
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Bullet on August 02, 2016, 06:10:43 pm
I stand corrected Costas  ;D and yes you are right I have nothing to worry about these days the faithful FJR just keeps going without complaint.  :P :-X

Agreed, but being greedy and having both Rae, Bullet is much more fun  ;)
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on August 02, 2016, 06:16:25 pm
I had a K1300S for a couple of days as a loan bike while my K1200GT was being fixed. I know what they are capable of, they make anyone look like a good rider, going around bends all by themselves and very good for filtering. I managed to hit triple digits in 3rd gear and thought this bike will get me nicked if I'm not careful, I remember saying out load to myself "Oh my giddy aunt".
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Costas on August 02, 2016, 07:11:27 pm
You're been reinstated to both my heart and mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: fjtwelve on December 03, 2016, 11:02:20 pm
So at the risk of pouring fuel on to the bonfire, is there a similar recommendation for oil for a 2008 K1200S before I venture down to the sparkly new BMW garage in Falmouth to have my wallet mugged?

Hallo hallo actually need some oil for a top up now. Can anyone tell me?
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on December 04, 2016, 09:17:38 am
Before BMW changed suppliers it was Castrol Power 1 5W - 40 which was only available from BMW dealers. So if you can now find it else where these days that would be ok. The engine doesn't know that BMW changed the spec. I spoke to Castrol and they told me that it would be OK to use 10W - 40 for top ups. His parting comment was "any oil is better than no oil".
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: fjtwelve on December 04, 2016, 09:52:55 am
Thanks will go and have a look around. Anything less than �15 a litre would be handy :o
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on December 04, 2016, 10:40:53 am
Found this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Castrol-POWER-1-Racing-4T-5W-40-1-Litre-Can-/132013433210?hash=item1ebc9d217a:g:d6YAAOSwUuFWxxj7

and this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CASTROL-Power-1-Racing-5W40-4T-Motorcycle-Oil-part-synthetic-4-Liter-Litre-/232120039129?hash=item360b6eb6d9:g:we4AAOSwwo1XcjrJ

Opie Oils have it too but a bit dearer
http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-77367-castrol-power-1-racing-4t-5w-40-fully-synthetic-motorcycle-4-stroke-engine-oil.aspx
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: Phmode on December 04, 2016, 10:42:32 am
Don't forget the club discount from Opie  8)
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: raesewell on December 04, 2016, 10:44:34 am
Don't forget the club discount from Opie  8)
I have used the club discount recently with Opie. With this product I think it's still cheaper on Ebay even with the discount applied.
Title: Re: Oil Advice and Recommendation Thread
Post by: fjtwelve on December 04, 2016, 11:27:09 am
Sorted thankyou. �12.99 from a bp garage. Only 800 miles to the service too >:(