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Things Bikers Love (or Hate) => Kit Reviews => Topic started by: richtea on June 03, 2021, 07:26:26 pm
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You might think that one of the main things people search for is 'CE level 2' for gloves, i.e. the higher certification.
Can I find a decent list of certified gloves? Can I heck. (I know, they're all CE nowadays - it's the better quality ones I'm after.)
So far, the best indicator is price, but even that's only a vague pointer. In fact the number of lumps'n'bumps is a good indicator of price. ;D
Does anyone know of a source that can tell me which gloves are level 2 without visiting and reading each and every description (most of which say nothing, or just CE)?
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My Alpinestars summer and winter gloves are Cat 1...
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Only checked my Rukka gloves because you mentioned CE Level 2 and surprisingly they don't specify any safety level of consruction.
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Here is an explanation:
https://vquattro.com/en/normes-ce/normes-ce-des-gants/
In simple terms there should be graphic of a man on a bike. In lower left corner of graphic there is a box with a number 1 or 2. Thats yer level.
Not many level 2 gloves on the market the crazy expensive Supertechs are L2 as are the GP Pro R3 which are a good deal cheaper.
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I had a good ride around the local glove dealers (local, my arse - Oxford, Coleshill [Brum], Hinckley and Kenilworth in that order. Took most of the day).
I saw almost no CE Level 2 items (Alpinestars GP Pro R3 was it, as armstrongracer spotted - well done!) and was stared at blank-faced by 'salesmen' when I asked if they had any CE Level 2 gloves. Clueless, the lot of them - bar one.
The Alpinestars turn out to be bloody tight - too tight for me, even on the max 3XL size. But they are well made. Shame.
One salesman sheeplishly said, and probably quite accurately:
'Actually, everyone just buys on colour and fit.'
Then followed up with 'These are nice, they've got titanium on the knuckles and stingray leather on the palm (https://www.motocentral.co.uk/held-titan-rr-leather-gloves-black.html). Only £377.'
'Are they CE Level 2?'
'Um, no. But they're really well made, I mean they must be the equivalent of CE Level 2.'
Silence from me whilst digesting 1) WTF does titanium do for you apart from spark as you hit the floor, and 2) that isn't stingray, mate. It's just a description.
[I was wrong on that second bit. Damn.]
The most helpful - Mr Kenilworth - rang his supplier who said the lack of choice was down to 'Not much call for them.'
He also said the CE Level 2 are likely to be less comfy because of the additional protection. Ah! - interesting point.
He's going to try & get some in for me to try.
Anyway, I am down to one brand for the moment - called Five. They're French and only make gloves, which is promising since they should know what they're doing. They do also look just as tarty as the rest - that comes with the territory, but they have a choice three models with CE Level 2, two of which are affordable - the RFX1 (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx1-7-2/) and RFX2 (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx2-3/) and come in big boy sizes. That's a start. The third pair, RFX Race (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx-race/), are eye-watering stingray/titanium prices.
I'll let you know if I ever manage to try a pair on.
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Interesting! Surely all the motogp riders are wearing ce level 2 gloves, so like everything else they wear, there'd be a market for them.
I'm sure I saw Five in the pistonheads bargain basement thread with a sale on and everyone and their mother was buying them. I'd not heard of them before though. Have you?
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Sportsbikeshop stock them.
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What do the local plod wear?
Elf and Serve Tea won't let them out on their own without a life jacket and a decent pair of waders in case it rains so I imagine their gloves are top notch.
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Or...how about these for £49 squid
??????????? Winter Motorcycle Gloves are a category 2 CE approved glove constructed from full grain leather and feature pre curved fingers, integrated knuckle/dual density rubber for general impact protection, stretch panels for ease of control, cuff & wrist straps for secure fit, Scaphoid reinforcement, Schoeller Keprotec for abrasion resistance, double leather reinforcements in high impact areas, Silicon layers anti-slip palm, waterproof, windproof and breathable membrane, thermal insulation and integrated rubber visor wipe.
Category 2 CE approved glove
Full grain leather
Impact protection
Waterproof
Windproof and breathable
The missing name on the glove...
Frank Thomas
No really...
https://jsaccessories.co.uk/product/frank-thomas-ft-05-cat-2-gloves-black-17694?gclid=Cj0KCQjwnueFBhChARIsAPu3YkRnnbHcn7DvwuAH93PUy5z7oV939ir8WG7JeS0eRhjRqrb7iTD7c6UaArzYEALw_wcB&variant=87631
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British police wear Brian Sansom (BKS) gloves available from Motolegends.
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Exactly what Rae said!
What do the local plod wear?
Elf and Serve Tea won't let them out on their own without a life jacket and a decent pair of waders in case it rains so I imagine their gloves are top notch.
They are pretty good.
BKS (https://bksleather.co.uk/products-list/accessories/gloves)and Brian Sansom (https://www.motolegends.com/reviews/Police-motorcycle-gloves-review). Maybe others.
Two issues there:
1) I really need to try them for size (or purchase a couple of sizes and models online - try them - and return the many rejects).
2) BKS are well known for top quality leathers, but they have a hell of a lot of gloves going cheap at J&S (https://jsaccessories.co.uk/category/search?queryString=bks%20gloves&categories.name=&brand=&colours=&size=&material=&price_min=0&price_max=2000). I get the feeling they're mostly just stamped BKS, and not the same quality as police/racer versions which are on the BKS website.
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Or...how about these for £49 squid
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Winter! Noooo.
Mind you, Wales can get a bit wet...
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J&S bought the BKS brand and Brian Samson wanted it back so he started again don't get them confused.
Take a look at the Motolegends videos.
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British police wear Brian Sansom (BKS) gloves available from Motolegends.
Ack best me to it too hah!
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Surely a glove at Cat 2 is a glove at Cat 2.
The idea of the winter glove is that a google search pulled up the Frank Thomas pair of winter ones so maybe summer ones also.
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Surely a glove at Cat 2 is a glove at Cat 2.
The idea of the winter glove is that a google search pulled up the Frank Thomas pair of winter ones so maybe summer ones also.
You're right. My reason for looking for them was to help exclude some of the enormous choice.
A bit like Sharp for helmets, it's not the only meansurement of a good item, but it gives you some sort of base guide.
There is a slightly nicer / better(?) version here. The elasticated areas look like they're in the correct place, and some extra leather on the little finger:
https://jsaccessories.co.uk/product/frank-thomas-ft-27-cat-2-gloves-black-17693?searchId=22430&variant=87627
Couldn't see any true summer gloves though.
Only one slight oddiity - why Category 2 and not Level 2? (with the worry that Cat 2 may mean something else - https://guidegloves.com/en/knowledge/our-products/standards/ce-categories, rather than https://mag.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/advice/motorcycle-glove-ce-markings-explained/).
I've emailed them to ask for confirmation.
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What has brought on this search for super gloves Rich?
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Possibly the 'best' constructed and armoured gloves I have are my Knox winter gloves...but they have that fabulous but stupid boa closing mechanism with a wind up button the back of the wrist and wire loops that enclose the plastic wrist 'gauntlets'.
But the mechanism is fiddly to use (with winter gloves on ::) ) and the right thumb pinches a little? They are not CE anything but I always felt good in them until my thumb went numb >:(
Ease of use in a glove is important because if they are fiddly the chances are you won't bother fiddling and then the safety is compromised. I have never cinched the wrist strap on any of the gloves I have that have the facility and in some way that must reduce the safety in a big one. But trying to do the right thing is like trying to put your own boxing gloves on, easy for the first hand...
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What has brought on this search for super gloves Rich?
Good question!
I have a pair of summer gloves, but they're long in the tooth, and tighter than when originally purchased. Can your hands get fat? I wouldn't think so - but they're definitely tighter than they used to be.
Last time I bought gloves (winter ones 2 years ago*) I really struggled to find a decent size and design, so the double whammy of summer arriving and the Wramble upcoming meant a fresh summer pair would be welcome. Even in the Welsh rain. :P
I wrote the thread starter, and then coincidentally last week's MCN had a gloves article the day after (I get MCN free on the tablet, but on Thu/Fri), and that set me off on even more of a mission. I may need to get a life soon.
In terms of the reason for 'super' quality it's just how I'd pick a helmet or other kit - start with the item meeting a safety standard, and go up from there.
Turns out I tripped up at 'safety standard'.
> I've emailed them [J&S] to ask for confirmation [of Level 2 for the Frank Thomas gloves].
They confirmed the Frank Thomas gloves are CE Level 2. Swift work on a Saturday - commended.
Anyhooo, I've just ordered two sizes of these which are also CE Level 2: BKS 26 gloves (https://jsaccessories.co.uk/product/bks-26-cat-2-gloves-black-17691?searchId=22428&variant=87617), even though it's not a summer glove. It appears to be made to almost the same design as the Frank Thomas, but slightly better protection for another tenner. They both have to be badged J&S ones, since Rae said the BKS are J&S-owned.
In summary I've got distracted to just getting a CE level 2 glove of any form. but I'll come back to a summer equivalent at some point!
When the BKS ones arrive on Monday, I'll tell you if the quality & fit is good.
*Richa gloves, which seemed well made, but the lining has already started to give a little grief on the left paw.
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Take a look here Rich for the real McCoy BKS
https://www.bksleather.co.uk/products-list/accessories/gloves
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Summer gloves tend to get sweaty and the goat or kangaroo or cat skin on the palms tends to shrink as they age and get pickled in the sweat.
I had a pair of excellent Teknic Violator (?) summer gloves which were excellent and vented but they rotted and eventually split on the base of the thumb.
Eventually I found a second-hand pair on fleabay, never worn as too small for the original owner and they are my second pair for the afternoons if my Alpinestars get manky in the mornings...
I can't be doing with wet hands, sweaty or pee'd on by the elephants, so on tour I always carry two pairs of summer gloves, one pair of waterproof 3-season gloves and a pair of neoprene lobster claw over-gloves, just in case. In the left Sport Case in fact...
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To combat smelly gloves, even before Covid I carried hand sanitiser. I find that if you give your hands a good slathering of hand sanitiser and get your gloves on before it evaporates it keeps them from smelling. I found that you only need to do this every couple of weeks. If your hands are particularly sweaty you may have to do this more often.
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I look forward to 'Glove Comparison 2021' as I have a new pair of those Knox things. Not handroids, but gauntlet versions of whatever I had before, with the boa.
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The Handroids are very attractive, and I did look at them. A lot. I mean who wouldn't want articulated exoskeletal bits!
But they're still CE level 1 even though they're on Mark 4 of the design. They've been tested to the latest CE level*, so they had the chance to test to Level 2.
But didn't.
This is the sort of thing I don't understand - are they weak gloves, are Knox too tight with the cash to test both levels, or is that Level 2 gloves are just too uncomfy?
*The Knox website says: 'A 15 test CE approval process gives external verification and covers materials, fit, cut, abrasion resistance, seam and tear strength and impact absorption. EN 13594- 2015'. That '2015' is the latest version, and has both levels defined in it.
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It is economics you buffoon!
It isn't worth spending all that money and effort when you are the only person in the whole of motorcycling history who has asked about level 2 CE approval...
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;D ;D ;D
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It is economics you buffoon!
It isn't worth spending all that money and effort when you are the only person in the whole of motorcycling history who has asked about level 2 CE approval...
Fair cop. ;D
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More than happy with the offerings from Scott Leathers.
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Here's a thought Rich, what about Stadler gloves, Stadler armour in their jacket and trousers exceeds level 2 by 60% it may be the same for their gloves.
https://www.motolegends.com/gloves?Brand=Stadler
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Here's a thought Rich, what about Stadler gloves, Stadler armour in their jacket and trousers exceeds level 2 by 60% it may be the same for their gloves.
https://www.motolegends.com/gloves?Brand=Stadler
https://www.stadler-bekleidung.de/product-detail-gloves-en/guard-gtx.html
Equipment section -> CE approved on EN 13594: 2015, Level 1
I'm very tempted to set up www.bestmotorcyclegloves.com (http://www.bestmotorcyclegloves.com). ::)
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That would be, at least level one but not tested for level 2. If you look at the Motolegends site they do a comparison video on armour. The Stadler is impressive.
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Long time, no update.
They confirmed the Frank Thomas gloves are CE Level 2. Swift work on a Saturday - commended.
Anyhooo, I've just ordered two sizes of these which are also CE Level 2: BKS 26 gloves (https://jsaccessories.co.uk/product/bks-26-cat-2-gloves-black-17691?searchId=22428&variant=87617), even though it's not a summer glove. It appears to be made to almost the same design as the Frank Thomas, but slightly better protection for another tenner. They both have to be badged J&S ones, since Rae said the BKS are J&S-owned.
In summary I've got distracted to just getting a CE level 2 glove of any form. but I'll come back to a summer equivalent at some point!
When the BKS ones arrive on Monday, I'll tell you if the quality & fit is good.
The BKS-branded-but-actually-J&S gloves were shockingly poor. Like having giant sausage fingers. And they weren't CE level 2.
Avoid.
(And well done to Rae for knowing the history of the true BKS man Brian Sansom.)
Anyway, I am down to one brand for the moment - called Five. They're French and only make gloves, which is promising since they should know what they're doing. They do also look just as tarty as the rest - that comes with the territory, but they have a choice three models with CE Level 2, two of which are affordable - the RFX1 (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx1-7-2/) and RFX2 (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx2-3/) and come in big boy sizes. That's a start. The third pair, RFX Race (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/rfx-race/), are eye-watering stingray/titanium prices.
I'll let you know if I ever manage to try a pair on.
The Five gloves were very good. Proper CE Level 2. I bought the RFX1 summer gloves in the summer - as you do. They were tight and needed bedding in, but are now comfy. I only have one negative point against them - the edge of the scaphoid protection can get between your hand and the bar depending on how you hold your bars. Something to check before buying, but I've got used to the slight touch.
All good. Except now it's winter.
So I looked for CE Level 2 winter gloves. Hmmm. This time I gave up early and went for another pair of Five gloves since the summer ones were so good - the WFX Max Gore-tex (https://www.bike-kit.co.uk/five-wfx-max-gore-tex-waterproof-gloves-review/). I thought they didn't do Level 2 winter gloves but when they turned up they were the full monty. Bonus!
(http://www.poqit.com/wfx-max.jpg)
(http://www.poqit.com/ce-level-2.jpg)
They're a mix of leather and textile - leather on the outer edges and palm where you're going to need extra abrasion protection, and textile for the rest of the glove. They're waterproof (Gore-Tex) with a Thinsulate inner.
I'll let you now how I get on with them, as always. But right now they've been tucked away until Christmas.
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A quick update on the CE Level 2 winter gloves I got - Five WFX Max Gore-tex (https://www.bike-kit.co.uk/five-wfx-max-gore-tex-waterproof-gloves-review/).
Pros:
- top level protection, including proper scaphoid protection
- good insulation - almost too good, it takes 10 minutes before you feel the heated grips
- fully waterproof Gore-Tex, with an inner thinsulate liner
Cons:
- very close to a 'sausage finger' effect from the insulation, but still fine for controls
- as per the Five summer gloves, the edge of the scaphoid protection can be felt between your palm and the bar depending on how you hold your bars. Something to check before buying, but I've got used to.
They definitely aren't 4 season gloves. You would sweat cobs in spring/summer/autumn - definitely for winter use only.
I will use thinner waterproof ones for the other 3 seasons. Now for the 3 season CE Level 2 waterproof glove search. To be contd...
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Thanks Richard. I will try and remember this thread should I ever start commuting again. Whatever I have at the moment, coupled with KTM grips being cooler than the GS, means I get freezing hands pretty quickly. Even with the dainty hand guards.
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Fit better hand guards?
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When buying a riding jacket or other gear, a very useful helping hand is the protection rating that comes with genuine products. A protection rating is provided by CE or Conformité Européenne, French for European Conformity to give buyers an idea of the capability of protection that the armour can offer.
Protection armours undergo rigorous testing so that a safety rating can be determined for them.
There are two safety rating levels. Level 1 and level 2, with the latter being the comprehensive option.
The test is performed in the following manner. A 5 kg block of specific dimensions is dropped from an elevation of about 1 metre so that the impact energy is 50 joules, that is the approach speed of the block which is about 17 km/hr. The reading of the impact on the other side of the armour is taken to see how much of the impact force has been absorbed. This is then compared with the threshold readings and the rating is determined. To ensure consistency, this test is repeated in many areas of the armour, and the average is calculated.
A level 1 armour is rated for an average impact force of 18 kN (kilo Newton) or less. Since its the pressure, that is force-per-unit-area that causes damage to our body, no particular reading should be higher than 24 kN. Coming to level 2, this reading is halved. We are seeing a maximum value of 9 kN, with no particular reading going higher than 12 kN.
An abrasion test is also performed where the fabric comprising the gear is repetitively held against an abrasive material (like sandpaper), until it gives way. This test would tell us about the integrity of the fabric, and how well it would hold up if in case the rider falls on asphalt or a rougher surface and endures a tumble. Both the impact and abrasion test play a part in determining the safety rating of the jacket or pants. But the impact test itself is done only on the armour, not the whole jacket.
Speaking strictly regulation wise, level 1 protection would be enough, with only certain race tracks demanding level 2 protection.
But in my opinion, safety is the one area where there must be no compromises whatsoever. Also, our road conditions mean that high-pressure points are more likely in case of a fall, so it's advisable to go for level 2 from the get-go.
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Good info Costas - thanks.
> But in my opinion, safety is the one area where there must be no compromises whatsoever.
Agreed! There are only a few reasons not to go for Level 2 gloves (or AAA in clothing):
- Comfort. If they're uncomfy enough to distract you from the ride, then don't buy them
- Cost. They'll cost more, but if you can afford to run a BMW you can probably afford top quality kit.
- Availability. It's really hard to find Level 2 gloves online. They're rare, and few sites mention the protection level. Crazy. What do the marketing depts do for their salary?
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I know it’s a while since the original post, but MCGearHub has reviewed eight CE level 2 gloves:
https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gloves/best-safest-motorcycle-gloves-ce-level-2-buying-guide/ :winkthumbs:
Also, Five’s range includes half a dozen CE level 2 gloves. It appears we’ve a growing range of CE level 2 gloves – including waterproof (Five RFX WP), short cuff (Alpinestars AMT-10), and several race gloves.
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Welcome Motorradpilot!
Thanks for the extra info - very useful article.
The Five RFX WP ones seem a nice halfway house between summer and winter gloves. They seem a bit limited in stock at the moment - maybe they're a new design.
Also interesting to note the AMT-10 are part-textile AND short(ish) cuff, so manufacturers are starting to branch out from just pure race level 2 gloves.
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Unfortunately, Alpinestars downgraded the AMT-10 (https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gloves/alpinestars-amt-10-gloves-review-air-hdry-guide/#Rider-protection-and-safety). They launched it as a level 2 glove, then removed some of the SuperFabric and dropped the protection to level 1 :(
A quick update on the CE Level 2 winter gloves I got - Five WFX Max Gore-tex (https://www.bike-kit.co.uk/five-wfx-max-gore-tex-waterproof-gloves-review/).
How easily do WFX Max gloves fit under jacket sleeves? And does this glove have a visor wipe?
I will use thinner waterproof ones for the other 3 seasons. Now for the 3 season CE Level 2 waterproof glove search. To be contd...
How about Five TFX1 GTX gloves? They are CE level 2 and available from SportsBikeShop (https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/517371).
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Well spotted Pilot - no 3XL in stock yet (I've asked) but potentially due soon.
And I have a lovely Sportsbike voucher to use up. :)
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Not sure if this is true or just sales man speak, but I was told that it is difficult to get the short summer gloves (like I wear :-\) through level 2 and that most level 2 gloves have long wrist coverings. Partly for protection, but also to stop them pulling off our hands in an accident?
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Not salesman talk - it's the rules!
You need to have 5cm of cuff length for protection, so a short glove won't pass Level 2.
From a lovely link that armstrongracer added earlier in this thread (page 1 in fact):
https://vquattro.com/en/normes-ce/normes-ce-des-gants/
(https://vquattro.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/visuel-tableau-CE-gants-EN.png)
There's no mention of resistance to glove removal there though, but then again I'm not sure that's the full spec.
But in terms of unwanted glove removal, they can be 5 layers of kangaroo & stingray leather with all the carbon & titanium you like, but if you don't tighten the wrist restraint strap you will still get a bloody rash as the glove slides off. I used to find the wrist straps extremely annoying - until I belatedly worked out what they were for - it's akin to wearing an Arai and not doing the chin strap up.
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As a small aside, here are a pair of gloves that are more like CE -1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggv_OI2DTlk
Buyer beware, as ever.
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Five SF1 gloves (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/sf1/) have a relatively short cuff, yet are CE level 2. However, they’re currently hard to find (eBay had some available). Like many things nowadays, manufacturing stock appears limited.
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Five SF1 gloves (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/sf1/) have a relatively short cuff, yet are CE level 2. However, they’re currently hard to find (eBay had some available). Like many things nowadays, manufacturing stock appears limited.
Good spot.
Judging by their design, I think they've passed by extending the cuff to 5cm on the outer edge of the glove only, and leaving the rest short. Which is sensible - it's the outer edge that's most likely to touch down. And you get all the other level 2 benefits too, of course.
From their catalogue (https://www.five-gloves.com/en/glove/sf1/):
'Designed for high-performance connoisseurs looking for a level of protection equivalent to that found on high-end racing gloves, without the bulk, it promises optimal protection of the ulna. With its palm that includes a leather digital pittards reinforcement, it offers optimal grip under all circumstances. With full-grain leather, Kevlar® lining, Carbon reinforcements and a SuperFabric® patch on the palm, Stretch Kevlar® for comfort, the new SF1 is protective both on the inside and on the topside of the hand.'
EDIT: The Issu version of the catalogue has the CE 1 / CE 2 labels for each glove. The website doesn't for some reason:
https://e.issuu.com/embed.html?d=five_moto_catalogue_2022_en_full_issuu&u=fivegloves
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Judging by their design, I think they've passed by extending the cuff to 5cm on the outer edge of the glove only, and leaving the rest short. Which is sensible - it's the outer edge that's most likely to touch down. And you get all the other level 2 benefits too, of course.
It appears OJ Spin gloves (https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gloves/oj-spin-gloves-review-test-ce-level-2-motorcycle-gloves/) have a similar design: a short cuff that covers the right places and achieves CE level 2.
Let’s hope the growing number of CE level 2 gloves continues. I’m delighted that brands like Alpinestars, Five, LS2 and others offer level 2 gloves, but more choice is always better.
I feel some brands take the piss with high-priced gear that has a low CE rating (e.g. £550 for a pair of Dainese Full Metal 6 Replica gloves, which are only CE level 1 KP).
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This may be of interest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjmbZxIaZ4Q
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Hmm, they look a bit naff to me, Rae. I'm with the reviewer on the size - the thumb is super-baggy, but I guess if you're buying from a shop you can go one size lower.
And any glove will be waterproof if you put a hand-shaped bag over it!
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Yet another CE level 2 summer glove: https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gloves/ce-level-2-motorcycle-gloves-review-garibaldi-nexus-gari/
I’m glad we’re seeing more Level 2 options :thumbsup:
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Good price on those too. Not quite sure about the logic of white gloves (especially in the 20s), but hey - KP2 beats colour every tie in Top Trumps - Gloves Edition.
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A new article by Bike Social:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-gloves-reviews/best-motorcycle-gloves-summer-winter
There's some good advice there, but unfortunately it doesn't recommend any CE Level 2 glove. It does point you towards the Aussie testing site, MotoCAP, which looks good, and has been recommended by Paul Varnsverry:
https://www.motocap.com.au/products/gloves
The MotoCAP site reckons my Five gloves are merely average-to-OK. It's even more dismissive of my Alpinestars. Bum.
The search for safety + extra large size + waterproof + 3 seasons continues.
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My Alpinestars 365 (probably discontinued knowing my luck) are warm even in winter (but I don't need heated grips) waterproof and safe. Whether they are the safest is yet to be proven. I've never heard horror stories about missing pinkies with Alpinestars.
I admire your search for the best but I'm not sure they exist at the moment :(
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I admire your search for the best but I'm not sure they exist at the moment :(
It's just an excuse to buy more pairs.
Yours, Imelda
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Is this revenge shopping for Ms Cashmere's shoe fetish :)
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That's the first time I have looked at the Motocap site - some good information on there. :winkthumbs:
Just seen the my go to summer gloves - Alpinestars SMX-2s - come up quite well.
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Is this revenge shopping for Ms Cashmere's shoe fetish :)
Reduced-revenge shopping can be done here to lessen the pain:
https://www.cheaney.co.uk/factory-shop-i121
More of a factory front room, but sweet if you like proper shoes.
And whilst you;'re there, keep rolling east for another three minute to here:
https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/rushton-triangular-lodge/
Should put it on Tobelerone bars.
I think I may have drifted from CE Level 2. Whatever. ::)
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Leaving shoes aside for a moment, the CE Level 2 gloves keep coming. Oxford Products’ Nexus 1.0 gloves are CE Level 2, and MCGearHub has just reviewed Lindstrands Bergby gloves:
https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gloves/ce-level-2-gloves-review-lindstrands-bergby-gloves/
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I do like those Lindstrands, especially since they have large sizes (13 & 14).
I have a cheapish source of them, and can get 10% off. The glove stack might just get a little bit taller.
The Oxford Nexus 1.0 look OK, but with less range of sizes (3XL often doesn't fit me), but it has a touchscreen-sensitive finger.
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Halvarrsons and Lindstrands are the same company. Andy Spencer sells both at Behind Bars in Kenilworth.
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Halvarrsons and Lindstrands are the same company. Andy Spencer sells both at Behind Bars in Kenilworth.
Exactly! And he gives 10% off to Coventry & West Midlands Advanced Motorcyclist members.
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My Alpinestars 365 (probably discontinued knowing my luck) are warm even in winter (but I don't need heated grips) waterproof and safe.
Alpinestars 365 Drystar gloves did well (a 4-star safety rating) in MotoCAP tests:
https://www.motocap.com.au/product/sp-365-drystar
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Here is another review of some CE Level 2 gloves, which Bike Social have taken a shine to:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-gloves-reviews/five-rfx2-airflow-review-level-2-gloves
I have a couple of pairs of Five gloves and they're well made.
Just beware these are improved over the original Airflows from 2020 if you read the review, so check carefully before buying.
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Just about managed to confirm these are Level 2. LS2 Swift gloves.
SBS link (https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/494678)
Terrible manufacturer PDF confirming what is not even mentioned on the SBS page :/ (https://ls2helmets.com/uploads/Catalogue-Gloves-2020.pdf)
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Another review of Level 2 gloves - Oxford Nexus this time, which have been around since ~June-ish.
These are very good value for their protection level at £99.99, and get Bennetts' Gold award:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/motorcycle-gloves-reviews/oxford-nexus-gloves-review-level-2
I previously noted the range of sizes was limited, but Sportbikeshop now has S -> 3XL.
The only Level 2 gloves I'm missing now are waterproof ones that aren't deep winter ones. These don't plug that gap, otherwise I'd buy them.
Yours, Imelda.
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I thought it was shoes. Still, I get the drift.
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Fashionably late, has joined the Level 2 trend with its Full Metal 7 gloves:
https://www.mcgearhub.com/motorcycle-gear/dainese-full-metal-7-gloves-first-impressions-thoughts-ce-level-2-gloves/
But they aren’t cheap! :o
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Discounted to £379. Hmmm. I think that may be a bit too salty, even for me.
I have lovely CE Level 2 summer gloves, and also CE Level 2 winter gloves which I managed to break a little more in this winter.
But I'm still looking for a 3 season waterproof CE Level 2 pair that don't have sausage fingers.
The equivalent to the Richa Street Touring (https://www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-kit/gloves/richa-street-touring-gloves-review/) gloves.