Oh no Avon woes

[raesewell]

Avon have discontinued my favourite tyre the Avon Storm 2 Ultra, oh no.
I currently have Pirelli Angel GT (A) fitted at the moment, there is nothing wrong with Angel GTs a great tyre a far better tyre than I am a rider. By the same token the Avons were a better tyre than I was a rider too but cheaper than the Angels.

There are still some Storm 2s available and I'll get a pair, but which way to jump after the Avon Storm 2 Ultra. I've tried Avon 3D XM the front went out of shape very quickly. PR3s were a bit squirmy over white lines in the wet. Not tried PR4s but they are as expensive as the Angles.
I'm not much of a Metzler fan (same company as pirelli I'm told) but might give them a go.

Woe woe and thrice woe.

[Phmode]

If you found the PR3 squirmy on white lines on the K (I never have) then I wouldn't bother with PR4's (on a K) cos they were very squirmy over white lines in the dry and broken longitudinal tarmac jointing where the overbanding had gone, even in the dry!

But seeing as you are not on a K I can't help you 

[raesewell]

The thing is Brian the tyres have no idea what bike they are on.

I'll get a pair of Avons that are still available and then I might look at the Metzler 01s

[Phmode]

Shurelee not   

Dumb tyres, whatever next?

The point is that I haven't heard riders of other makes complain about the PR4's predilection for tramlining compared with the PR3. It does seem that the PR3 'suits' the funny front end of the K whereas the PR4 most definitely does not, at least at medium speed in my experience.

So, they might not know they are on your bike, but they also may or may not suit it.

[raesewell]

For the reasons already mentioned I won't be going for PR 3s or 4s.

[black-k1]

Brian: I tend to change my tyres at just over 7000 miles, when they still have about 1000 miles left before the legal minimum I've used both PR4s and PR4GTs and in both cases, the tramlining didn't start until the last 1000 miles or so.

[Belco100]

Avon have discontinued my favourite tyre the Avon Storm 2 Ultra ...

One of my mates uses these on his Hayabusa and swears by them. He'll be gutted by this as well 

[Phmode]

Brian: I tend to change my tyres at just over 7000 miles, when they still have about 1000 miles left before the legal minimum I've used both PR4s and PR4GTs and in both cases, the tramlining didn't start until the last 1000 miles or so.

That's well weird David.

My experience was so long ago now I can't remember the mileage on the tyres at the time but I do remember commenting on it as soon as I got them fitted, which was just before the Italy trip. I imagine the big moaning write-up I did was after we got back, so about 3,000 miles in.

The white line tramlining wasn't too bad with the PR4's on my K12S. The worst was the 'tramlining' along broken longitudinal joints; the white line between lanes 2 & 3 on the eastbound M4 has broken longitudinal joints immediately to its right and that combination, in the wet, was lethal when filtering.

A few roads in Reading have a broken joint right on my 'natural' riding line and the bike simply refused to stay on line.

[black-k1]

Brian: I tend to change my tyres at just over 7000 miles, when they still have about 1000 miles left before the legal minimum I've used both PR4s and PR4GTs and in both cases, the tramlining didn't start until the last 1000 miles or so.

That's well weird David.

My experience was so long ago now I can't remember the mileage on the tyres at the time but I do remember commenting on it as soon as I got them fitted, which was just before the Italy trip. I imagine the big moaning write-up I did was after we got back, so about 3,000 miles in.

The white line tramlining wasn't too bad with the PR4's on my K12S. The worst was the 'tramlining' along broken longitudinal joints; the white line between lanes 2 & 3 on the eastbound M4 has broken longitudinal joints immediately to its right and that combination, in the wet, was lethal when filtering.

A few roads in Reading have a broken joint right on my 'natural' riding line and the bike simply refused to stay on line.

My first set of PR4s, the one's I had in Italy, did it a bit but adding the extra PSI recommended by the Michelin rep. solved it for the second set.

[raesewell]

This thread was about Avons not Michelins start your own thread you, you, you thread hijackers 

[Phmode]

This forum is called EuroKClub you forum hijacker you!

[black-k1]

This forum is called EuroKClub you forum hijacker you!

Touche

[raesewell]

I have a little bit of sense, not a lot

[JackSnipe]

Rae, You like your old Avon's but there are better out there. In the development cycle I guess you are talking about a tyre designed over 10 years ago. For me currently the best ST tyre = Roadsmart III, I have a brand new pair waiting to go on my RT when the salt is flushed away. I have a perfect set, under 2000 miles of Bridgestones 21's coming off.Anybody fancy  for them for a few quid north of £50.00 collected are welcome ?

I have had PR'4 on a number of bikes the RS III's are better all round.