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Title: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on July 23, 2018, 04:15:07 pm
I bought these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Foam-Grip-Covers-Cut-to-Size-Superb-Quality-FREE-POSTAGE/221763956126?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

They are a good alternative to Grip Puppies and almost half the price. They feel and look the same, the foam might be just a bit firmer and I haven't fitted them yet but at first glance a good buy.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on July 23, 2018, 04:43:14 pm
Anyone ever tried wrapping with handlebar tape, or raquet tape?
It would give you the option of deciding the thickness.

It just occured to me that Grip Puppies are a bit like 80s bicycle handlebar foam (aka GrabOn). But cyclists seemed to move on into the 21st century. Or back to the the 19th, depending on how you look at it.  ;D
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on July 24, 2018, 01:27:49 pm
I'll await the 5 year report with interest Rae... ;D
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on July 24, 2018, 03:41:15 pm
Funnily enough Brian I get through a pair in just over a year and the ones I have on at the moment will need changing soon.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on July 25, 2018, 10:12:10 pm
What? The genuine Grip Puppies?

The ones on my GS did 24,000 miles. The set on my K12S also did 24,000 miles. Both sets were like new when I sold the bikes.

The set on the K13S have only done the 47 miles since I bought it...
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: black-k1 on July 26, 2018, 07:57:00 am
some people just like to grip tighter than others! ;)
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on July 27, 2018, 10:48:23 pm
 ;D ;D ;D

...and I lost mine a long, long time ago...
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Blobby on July 28, 2018, 10:39:01 am
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on April 23, 2019, 04:51:16 pm
The genuine grip puppies lasted longer than expected and the cheaper Ebay alternatives have been fitted today. They were surprisingly easy to slip on. I warmed them up in some hot water and used a dab of fairy liquid and they went on quite easily while still tight enough to grip the original grips. We'll see how long they last.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: drumwrecker on April 23, 2019, 07:49:36 pm
Just looked at the Ebay page. It give the price for one, that doe mean one pair I hope?
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on April 23, 2019, 08:09:42 pm
Yes Ron, one pair.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Coully on April 24, 2019, 06:47:30 pm
Are there other alternatives to the foam?...don't get me wrong,..there's something delightfully retro about them but just as a change
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on April 24, 2019, 06:53:03 pm
Yes there are alternatives, Grip Buddies are a wrap around cover, they have velcro which causes a seam, me no like  :-[
Nippy Norman sells them and they are expensive for what they are. so, me no like twice.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on April 24, 2019, 07:36:46 pm
I know I only ride to and from the MoT centre every year, but the Grip Puppies last for years.

They don't hold the rain water any longer than your gloves do and they are UV stable so don't go all manky and crumble to nothing.

For me, the biggest plus is the greater diameter and this is a plus for me for two reasons:

Firstly, I find the K throttle to be very sensitive to the slightest movement and as my arms bounce, the throttle twitches, even with a featherlight grip

Secondly, my seven-year-old-girl-like wrists and hands don't like pressure and the foam really helps.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on December 23, 2019, 11:47:14 am
Just a quick update on the cheapo grip cover. They have been on a few months now and the foam is slightly more dense than the Grip Puppies which I prefer. All in all very pleased with them, especially for the price.

Here is an Ebay link
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Foam-Grip-Covers-Cut-to-Size-Superb-Quality-FREE-POSTAGE/221763956126?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on February 23, 2023, 01:41:14 pm
Just bought some, Rae, so belated thanks for the review/recommendation.

It was a choice of recurring white finger (just in one finger oddly) or fat grips - so fat grips it is.
Not sure if it's weather-related, age-related, or even new-to-me bike-related, but it's an unwelcome irritation.

I'll let you know how I get on with mine.

Is it the usual soapy water to fit them?
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: raesewell on February 23, 2023, 02:27:34 pm
It's funny you should resurrect this thread Rich, I have just bought some of these after having the very expensive Grip Buddies until they wore out.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133794371739      Thinner than the ones I had before about 3mm I would say. I made a modification to help with heat transfer from the heated grips.
(https://i.ibb.co/x6scNvG/20230223-135641.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YhWKx98)

with one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333718042458?var=542801231342.

Another thing to think about Rich is your Brake Lever Lock you will have to trim them short or cut a piece off and slide it on first before the main section and when you want to use the lock peel it back. Or leave it intact and peel the whole thing back a bit.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on February 23, 2023, 05:36:37 pm
Oooh, good point on the brake lock - hadn't thought of that. I have a disc lock too, so I can revert to that temporarily whilst experimenting.

I'll give the ones coming a go first, and if I find them too chunky, I'll give your suggested thinner ones a go.
Not sure I'll need need holes yet - we'll see, but an excellent idea. They look quite funky.


Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 20, 2024, 04:16:44 pm
Just got myself a set of grip puppies and wondering how the heated grips work with them?. The guy in the shop said they can melt?

Got the bike finished this weekend! (will update thread today) and went for first proper ride yesterday of around 80miles. My right hand was having some pretty bad cramps, and when I got off some tingling in my thumb and index finger.

My gloves were pretty big chuncky and cheap winter ones, maybe a size too big that I think was contributing. I also have pretty big hands and the bikes grips might be slightly narrow for them?.

I also bought some alpinestars summer gloves in the shop, which are so much more dexterous. But when I went out today for 30 mins to test the ESA settings ( Il save that for the other thread :-[) , the cramping was much better, but the tingling of the hands wasn't. I was however riding the whole time up and down a bumpy bit of dual carriage way at 60mph on all the different ESA settings and being bounced out my seat, so I was probably holding on for dear life!

No sympoms felt in my left hand, and to be fair I do have a battered right hand from 35+ years of being a drummer and have had some issues lately with my ulner nerve. Holding a mobile phone for too long starts to hurt.

Saying that, on a recent trip to Thailand for 1 month I rented a honda crf300 the whole time and never once had any symptoms.

Im thinking the forward lean angle might not be helping and that helibars are prob next on the list.

Anyway, thats a lot of waffle for a post on grip puppies.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Swindon Andy on February 20, 2024, 04:28:12 pm
Grip puppies don't melt on the K. Just not as warm on the hands. I've got big hands and need the puppies. One pair of gloves I've got have a divider inside, where I can have less insulation on the palm and more on the back of the hand. Seems to work quite well, but ordinary winter gloves work OK as well, just not as toasty.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on February 20, 2024, 08:57:00 pm
Oooh, good point on the brake lock - hadn't thought of that. I have a disc lock too, so I can revert to that temporarily whilst experimenting.

I'll give the ones coming a go first, and if I find them too chunky, I'll give your suggested thinner ones a go.
Not sure I'll need need holes yet - we'll see, but an excellent idea. They look quite funky.

Well, things change. I never quite got round to fitting the thinner grips, even though they're a lot closer to what I wanted, and before I realised the problem had gone away. I managed to ride to the Alps and back with no white finger.
Instead I now have a little wrist ache instead.  Who ordered that? ::)

Thinking back, the white finger may well have been from riding at certain speeds for a long time, and thus certain vibration rates were doing the damage. I experience most vibes around 65-75mph, whereas normal K crusing territory is another 10-15mph.

The aching wrist - not sussed that yet, but I did buy a pair of Helibars just in case. Not yet fitted. Who knows - that ache might also go away.
(If so, it probably indicates I should continue buying never-to-be-fitted equipment for the rest of my life in order to drive away the pains.)
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 20, 2024, 09:10:22 pm
Grip puppies don't melt on the K. Just not as warm on the hands. I've got big hands and need the puppies. One pair of gloves I've got have a divider inside, where I can have less insulation on the palm and more on the back of the hand. Seems to work quite well, but ordinary winter gloves work OK as well, just not as toasty.

Thanks. Im going to put them on and see how I go... Heats not such an issue tbh, especially now were getting into spring,  its all about the comfort !
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 20, 2024, 09:20:49 pm
Oooh, good point on the brake lock - hadn't thought of that. I have a disc lock too, so I can revert to that temporarily whilst experimenting.

I'll give the ones coming a go first, and if I find them too chunky, I'll give your suggested thinner ones a go.
Not sure I'll need need holes yet - we'll see, but an excellent idea. They look quite funky.

Well, things change. I never quite got round to fitting the thinner grips, even though they're a lot closer to what I wanted, and before I realised the problem had gone away. I managed to ride to the Alps and back with no white finger.
Instead I now have a little wrist ache instead.  Who ordered that? ::)

Thinking back, the white finger may well have been from riding at certain speeds for a long time, and thus certain vibration rates were doing the damage. I experience most vibes around 65-75mph, whereas normal K crusing territory is another 10-15mph.

The aching wrist - not sussed that yet, but I did buy a pair of Helibars just in case. Not yet fitted. Who knows - that ache might also go away.
(If so, it probably indicates I should continue buying never-to-be-fitted equipment for the rest of my life in order to drive away the pains.)

i think im defo going to order helibars or similar. Been putting it off coz there quite expensive and wanted to ride the bike more to be sure, but after yesterday, I think its a good move. When im on a straight and I lift my hand off the bar for a rest, I find the natrual position is an inch or so above and back from the stock. The only thing thats putting me off is I was going to utilise the inner bar ends for a mounting system my friend was going to fabricate for me.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on February 20, 2024, 10:42:39 pm
You can still use the inner bar ends with Helibars. I have the Hornig inner mounts for sat nag etc. I drilled and tapped the inner end of the Helibar to take the Hornig mounting bolt and cut the expanding portion of the Hornig off.

Been working perfectly for 13 years, man and boy.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on February 20, 2024, 10:53:08 pm
You can still use the inner bar ends with Helibars. I have the Hornig inner mounts for sat nag etc. I drilled and tapped the inner end of the Helibar to take the Hornig mounting bolt and cut the expanding portion of the Hornig off.

Been working perfectly for 13 years, man and boy.

Unlike the owner. Boom tish.

Ooo, which reminds me - I must invite myself to sit on your bike and try your Helibars before I waste my time piddling about fitting mine (knowing full well it will take me 3 times longer than a normal human bean to fit them).
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 20, 2024, 11:17:28 pm
You can still use the inner bar ends with Helibars. I have the Hornig inner mounts for sat nag etc. I drilled and tapped the inner end of the Helibar to take the Hornig mounting bolt and cut the expanding portion of the Hornig off.

Been working perfectly for 13 years, man and boy.

Thats great to know! I was wondering about this route  :download:
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Swindon Andy on February 20, 2024, 11:57:42 pm
I fitted helibars but they weren't enough of a lift. So I eventually went for a 'superbike' bar conversion. That did it.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on February 21, 2024, 09:41:52 am
Yes, the HeliBars are a 'subtle' change, not a dramatic one.

There is a limit to how far you can lift and pivot backward before you start to stretch the cables and pipes.

Also, by the very nature of pivoting adjustments, the further back you move the bars, the lower your lift and the higher you go, the further from the seat they move. 'tis obvious if one bothers to study the geometry but, meh!

An alternative route followed by at least some(?) in here is to fit the bars and top yoke from an R which is more dramatic and doubtless more effective but I have no idea about the downsides.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on February 21, 2024, 09:52:12 am
You can still use the inner bar ends with Helibars. I have the Hornig inner mounts for sat nag etc. I drilled and tapped the inner end of the Helibar to take the Hornig mounting bolt and cut the expanding portion of the Hornig off.

Been working perfectly for 13 years, man and boy.

Unlike the owner. Boom tish.

Ooo, which reminds me - I must invite myself to sit on your bike and try your Helibars before I waste my time piddling about fitting mine (knowing full well it will take me 3 times longer than a normal human bean to fit them).

Well, you could invite yourself over to help with the radiator problem on mine and we could fit your BellyHa's at the same time. And kill two intercoms with one stone.

Just got to get myself out from under my rotting ex-bathroom floor and get the shiny new shower system installed, week four approaching, civil engineering phase and first fixes almost completed and about many weeks still to go.

But days off for playing with bikes are allowed for in the project plan contingencies section and costed accordingly  :winkthumbs:
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 21, 2024, 10:37:11 am
I fitted helibars but they weren't enough of a lift. So I eventually went for a 'superbike' bar conversion. That did it.

How tall are you? what was the reason ? pressure on wrists? I was looking at the superbike bars, but £400+ is a bit of a stinger
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Swindon Andy on February 21, 2024, 10:47:43 am
6' tall, average build. Wrist ache was the main culprit. The superbike bar conversion really is fine, come and see mine if you like.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Phmode on February 21, 2024, 05:51:29 pm
Don't forget, it's the seated height that matters, not the standing height.

I'm 5'10" in boots but with 33" inside leg I am short-arse when sitting and that makes the reach for the bars and the angle of dangle of the torso that much more uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: richtea on February 21, 2024, 06:32:41 pm
Well, you could invite yourself over to help with the radiator problem on mine and we could fit your BellyHa's at the same time. And kill two intercoms with one stone.
Good idea. But maybe wait until it's a little bit warmer - maybe March, a lovely month, and before April, with it's "sweet sweet showers, on and on for hours and hours." as Flanders and Swan sang.

I will message you at some point!
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 22, 2024, 12:16:22 am
6' tall, average build. Wrist ache was the main culprit. The superbike bar conversion really is fine, come and see mine if you like.

Very kind of you! Im planning a visit to see my uncle in Cardiff soon so that could be a good move!
Title: Re: Grip Puppies alternatives
Post by: Forcefield on February 22, 2024, 12:22:23 am
First ride today with grip puppies and lighter weight gloves and the cramp was much reduced and no tingling fingers after either so pretty happy with that!

Yes, the HeliBars are a 'subtle' change, not a dramatic one.

There is a limit to how far you can lift and pivot backward before you start to stretch the cables and pipes.

Also, by the very nature of pivoting adjustments, the further back you move the bars, the lower your lift and the higher you go, the further from the seat they move. 'tis obvious if one bothers to study the geometry but, meh!

An alternative route followed by at least some(?) in here is to fit the bars and top yoke from an R which is more dramatic and doubtless more effective but I have no idea about the downsides.

Was looking at the R conversion option. interesting one that. I saw someone put a set of GT bars on theres also.

I am leaning towards the helibars tbh.. When I was riding today, i was taking turns with each hand and pretending to have them installed and the position they would be in and it does seem like the perfect solution. Just enough to raise them up and back a bit and take a bit of pressure off my hands.

Am curious to see/feel the superbike conversion in person though