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For Sale / Wanted / Re: SW-Motech K1200S/1300S Alu-Rack for sale
« on: September 21, 2016, 10:53:40 am »
Great idea Simon; flotation bags for getting across the channel toot sweet 
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 20, 2016, 12:22:29 pm »
Correct. Too long working on ac I'm afraid!
The device in question is merely a step-down (buck) voltage regulator.
So devices such as the 660 have the voltage regulator in the head unit whilst the 340 has it in a separate box of tricks incorporated in the power cable.
The transformer, for the uninitiated, is the bit in the supplied mains adaptor plug for powering or charging the device.
Brian (who used be a qualified bright spark but is getting to be as dim as a Toc H lamp
)
The device in question is merely a step-down (buck) voltage regulator.
So devices such as the 660 have the voltage regulator in the head unit whilst the 340 has it in a separate box of tricks incorporated in the power cable.
The transformer, for the uninitiated, is the bit in the supplied mains adaptor plug for powering or charging the device.
Brian (who used be a qualified bright spark but is getting to be as dim as a Toc H lamp
)
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For Sale / Wanted / Re: BMW Service Manual on CD-ROM for K1200GT - FREE
« on: September 20, 2016, 11:43:56 am »
Four accidents?
One taxi?
That taxi driver needs sorting out
One taxi?
That taxi driver needs sorting out
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 19, 2016, 10:33:20 pm »
Nah, it's a good idea! But, I'm as sure as I can be that there is nothing in the cradle that can draw current.
As soon as the rain stops I shall take the battery out and put it back on the Optimate to see what the tests reveal. it could be a battery problem or it could be a bike problem but the lights don't lie; time will tell
As soon as the rain stops I shall take the battery out and put it back on the Optimate to see what the tests reveal. it could be a battery problem or it could be a bike problem but the lights don't lie; time will tell
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Where to get ball joints?
« on: September 19, 2016, 09:46:18 pm »
Do they have an English language web page Costas?
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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Matchless
« on: September 19, 2016, 06:46:17 pm »
Nice one! Good to see the small oil slick beneath the transmission
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Euro K Club Bling / Re: Wunderlich Classic Gear Lever Enlarger K12GT
« on: September 19, 2016, 06:18:16 pm »
It looks rough to me and that is only the piccie
A bit of heavy sanding with some emery cloth?
A bit of heavy sanding with some emery cloth?
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Euro K Club Bling / Re: Wunderlich Classic Gear Lever Enlarger K12GT
« on: September 19, 2016, 05:54:59 pm »
Surely a bit of rubber pipe slipped over it would have kept the i crease in size but taken the roughness off the boot!
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: BMW website - K1300s no more
« on: September 19, 2016, 02:52:43 pm »
He'll never get rid of it, he just went away!
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 19, 2016, 01:39:11 pm »I think pretty much all sat navs run on 5v. Those with specialist cradles, like the Garmin, will include a 12v to 5v transformer in the cradle so the cradle just needs to be fed with 12v. Others that use a plug into a cigarette lighter socket will require that the plug includes a 12v to 5v transformer, as all plug-in USB car adaptors have.
...and this bit is where I am at with my battery drain David.
If the 660 cradle does indeed have a transformer inside it, then with it connected directly across the battery, the input side of the transformer will be drawing current. If it is connected via the CANbus adaptor then it will not be in circuit with the ignition off, so no current draw.
The car kit that comes with the 660 has absolutely no transformer in the cigarette lighter plug, just took mine apart and there is a fuse and nowt else. The cable plugs into the car cradle with a proprietary plug, not a min-USB and try as I might I can't get the car cradle apart to see if it has a transformer inside but it seems way too light for that to be the case.
So, in the car, the 660 is fed with 12v directly, so the head unit has the transformer in it. I am assuming (which is both dangerous and the reason I connected my bike cradle directly across the battery) that because the car kit feeds 12v into the head unit, the bike kit would do the same as it uses the same gold-pinned connector.
Anyway, this is enough thread hi-jacking from me. Suffice to say that the 340 is a totally different beast from the 660 in terms of power supply.
Brian (who is going to stop confusing the matter with his 660 setup and is off to make a very strong coffee
)
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 18, 2016, 10:13:07 pm »
I'm really confused now Alex
Does the 340 not run off 12v like all the other Garmins I've had? You simply stuff 12v in via the cradle leads (either directly off the battery or via the canbus lead or the 12v out socket) and the Garmin internal electrics take care of the 12v - 5v conversion.
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Updated after studying the 340 installation instructions and various YouTube vids....
The 340 does NOT take 12v like some other Garmin head units! The 340 is supplied with a power lead which incorporates a 12v to 5v transformer unit which 'can' be connected directly across the battery! However, I think it 'should' be connected via the CANbus adaptor cable so the transformer is electrically disconnected from the battery when the ignition is off!
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If you are thinking of somehow converting the 12v down to 5v and using the mini-USB socket, that won't be waterproof and you could bugger the Garmin. In fact on the 660 you can't even get at the mini-USB without taking the battery cover off which is a design feature as part of the waterproofing of the unit and that is what makes it a motorcycle Garmin as opposed to an un-waterproofed car unit!
I'm obviously missing the point somewhere, especially the bit about removing the cradle.
If you only intend to use the Garmin very infrequently (otherwise why remove the cradle?) then you could make good soldered connections from the cradle harness to the canbus adaptor plug with heat-shrunk sleeves for protection and then disconnect the canbus adaptor plug, harness and cradle as one unit when you don't want it on the bike!
It isn't as simple to remove the battery cover on the R as it is on the S or the GT (3 screws rather than two from memory
) but that way you could fit or remove the whole thing in a matter of a couple of minutes.
This way you retain total waterproof-ness (
) of the Garmin, don't need a separate 12v - 5v converter and don't need any more cables than the one you already have attached to the cradle and the adaptor cable you have already ordered.
Brian (whose brain hurts so he is taking it to bed with him for a nice long rest )
Does the 340 not run off 12v like all the other Garmins I've had? You simply stuff 12v in via the cradle leads (either directly off the battery or via the canbus lead or the 12v out socket) and the Garmin internal electrics take care of the 12v - 5v conversion.
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Updated after studying the 340 installation instructions and various YouTube vids....
The 340 does NOT take 12v like some other Garmin head units! The 340 is supplied with a power lead which incorporates a 12v to 5v transformer unit which 'can' be connected directly across the battery! However, I think it 'should' be connected via the CANbus adaptor cable so the transformer is electrically disconnected from the battery when the ignition is off!
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If you are thinking of somehow converting the 12v down to 5v and using the mini-USB socket, that won't be waterproof and you could bugger the Garmin. In fact on the 660 you can't even get at the mini-USB without taking the battery cover off which is a design feature as part of the waterproofing of the unit and that is what makes it a motorcycle Garmin as opposed to an un-waterproofed car unit!
I'm obviously missing the point somewhere, especially the bit about removing the cradle.
If you only intend to use the Garmin very infrequently (otherwise why remove the cradle?) then you could make good soldered connections from the cradle harness to the canbus adaptor plug with heat-shrunk sleeves for protection and then disconnect the canbus adaptor plug, harness and cradle as one unit when you don't want it on the bike!
It isn't as simple to remove the battery cover on the R as it is on the S or the GT (3 screws rather than two from memory
) but that way you could fit or remove the whole thing in a matter of a couple of minutes. This way you retain total waterproof-ness (
) of the Garmin, don't need a separate 12v - 5v converter and don't need any more cables than the one you already have attached to the cradle and the adaptor cable you have already ordered.Brian (whose brain hurts so he is taking it to bed with him for a nice long rest
)
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 18, 2016, 02:43:06 pm »
See the stuff in the Google drive Rae.
http://www.eurokclub.bike/index.php/topic,83.0.html
I assure you that the third wire is a delayed off!
http://www.eurokclub.bike/index.php/topic,83.0.html
I assure you that the third wire is a delayed off!
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Garmin zumo 340LM £129 @ aldi
« on: September 18, 2016, 11:19:49 am »
Well, that depends which wire you connect to.
From memory, 1 = Earth, 2 = Off with ignition & 3 = Off with ignition with 1 minute delay (which seemed to vary from tome to time on the 12!
The big downside for me with using the canbus connector is that the Garmin will turn on with ignition, then turn off and back on again when you hit the starter. Connecting directly across the battery stops it doing that so you don't lose the routing info when you leave e.g. a fuel stop and have no idea which way itusat the next three roundabouts
From memory, 1 = Earth, 2 = Off with ignition & 3 = Off with ignition with 1 minute delay (which seemed to vary from tome to time on the 12!
The big downside for me with using the canbus connector is that the Garmin will turn on with ignition, then turn off and back on again when you hit the starter. Connecting directly across the battery stops it doing that so you don't lose the routing info when you leave e.g. a fuel stop and have no idea which way itusat the next three roundabouts