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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Old headers
« Last Post by Matt on April 08, 2024, 05:22:10 pm »
Bagsy when we've all switched to hydrogen and cat powered bikes I get all the headers. I'll make giant metal sculptures from them in a series titled "What of our Fossils Now?"

They'll either be in the shape of dinosaurs or 20th century old blokes. I'll decide just give me time.
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Old headers
« Last Post by richtea on April 08, 2024, 03:37:29 pm »
Good man! Do let us know how you get on Sutty.
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by richtea on April 08, 2024, 03:36:49 pm »
When I rang the man they said 'ah yes, two different modes of cruise fitted to our cars recently...'. Oh well, that's OK then!

Yup, I have the same fun - two vehicles made by the same manufacturer but 3 years difference and the algorithm changed. Disabling cruise control on a gear change is the right thing to do if you use gears to scrub a little speed off. But obviously that's not the done thing nowadays - 'S' is before G' in IPSGA and all that. "Gears to go, brakes to slow." My arse.

The 'good' car that disables it on a gear change is black. If that isn't a hint as to the correct action, I don't know what is.
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by black-k1 on April 08, 2024, 03:31:03 pm »
Kawasaki have moved from an unbranded ECU in the old bike to a Bosch ECU in the new one. This may be part of the solution to meet the Euro 5 requirements, though that's just my guess. The change of ECU supplier opened up a whole range of alternative functions not available via the old ECU, hence some of the fiddling.

Things like the brake changes were likely a result of the launch of the Hayabusa. It uses Brembo Stylema brakes and I think Kawasaki and Suzuki share quite a lot of their supply lines so I expect the volume purchase of the Brembo brakes probably brought them down to be cost effective vs. the Kawasaki brakes. It's also a book marketing point as the Stylema brakes are, I think, one of the current fashion items. :D

But, THE most important change is the colour, which is now majority black so must have significantly increased performance as a result! ;)
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by Phmode on April 08, 2024, 03:16:26 pm »
Nice comparison David. I have no idea why manufacturers have to tinker with what's not broke; I think they might have taken notice of the moans about the seat but why arse around with safety stuff like disabling the cruise.

All my older VAG cars have had cruise and it always disengaged if you changed down heading into a roundabout for example and also when you changed up. I nearly binned swimbo's car when I turned it left on a small roundabout having changed down and as I straightened up it suddenly accelerated back up to 30 and scared me witless as it power-steered its way across the white line. When I rang the man they said 'ah yes, two different modes of cruise fitted to our cars recently...'. Oh well, that's OK then! Of course, on a car's controls there is plenty of room for the cruise and disengaging it is easy-peasy, not so on a bike I guess.
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by black-k1 on April 08, 2024, 03:13:54 pm »
It's not possible to turn off the active part of the cruise control. Most of the time it's great but not remembering the setting for the range is frustrating.
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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: Old headers
« Last Post by Sutty on April 08, 2024, 02:41:17 pm »
Hello Runnerboy, if you still have them I'll have a go at welding them up, I'm in Worcestershire.

Regards  Mick
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by Matt on April 08, 2024, 02:36:13 pm »
Woo! I look forward to seeing how the dash looks. I like mine, all TFT stuff, though the newer ones of mine went all animated and stupid. I'm sure Kawasaki will have done a better job.

Hopefully the mirror vibrations are just a running-in thing and it'll settle down in a few miles.

Radar cruise eh. Can you turn on normo cruise still? The '23 SAS I tried from KTM still allows for it, I think in a setting somewhere or you can cycle through to it.

More range is always good!
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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Apparently NOT an April Fool thing...
« Last Post by Matt on April 08, 2024, 02:30:51 pm »
Not really sure why everyone thinks this is a bad thing? Trying to take it more global rather than just a Spain vs Italy thing?  ???


If you mean riders, maybe if their new financial model pushes money into the whole "feeder" stuff and getting the kids in at an early age. I believe that doesn't happen. Sure Red Bull do what Red Bull do, but that's Red Bull. p.s Red Bull. p.p.s Sheesh even the smell of it makes me feel ill! Actual location wise, the main thing F1 seemed good at was getting disreputable countries to host Grand Prix. Which fed money to Bernie and eventually the teams. MotoGP has done a good job at emulating that too.

I assume like many sports - let's take tennis for example - it's not the tournaments that ensure a supply of players but local investment in tennis courts, clubs etc. Infrastructure investment by governments. Oh.

Anyway, I asked ChatGPT4 as it's been helping me code all day and I'm sure it likes a change as much as the next pretend guy:
"So, in MotoGP it's mostly Spanish and Italian. Why so few British?" Then it waffled so I told it "sorry, for each key reason please compare Spain/Italy against UK"

Quote from: ChatGPT4
Certainly! When comparing the reasons behind the dominance of Spanish and Italian riders in MotoGP with the relative scarcity of British riders, we can examine the same factors through a comparative lens:

Motorcycling Culture:

Spain and Italy: Both countries have a fervent motorcycling culture that is deeply ingrained in their societies. The public's interest in motorcycle racing is high, and events are widely attended and celebrated. This cultural passion creates a nurturing environment for the sport.
UK: While the UK has a strong motorsport heritage, including motorcycle racing, the focus is more diversified among various types of motorsports, such as Formula 1 and rallying. Motorcycle racing does not dominate the sporting landscape to the same extent as in Spain or Italy, which may lead to less widespread grassroots support and enthusiasm among the general public.
Talent Development Programs:

Spain and Italy: These countries have highly structured and successful talent development programs aimed at identifying and nurturing young riders. Spain's CEV Championship and Italy's CIV Championship are critical in developing future stars, supported by local governments and private sponsors.
UK: The UK also has development programs and championships aimed at young riders, such as the British Superbike Championship's support classes. However, these may not offer the same level of exposure, competition, or continuity directly into international competitions like MotoGP, potentially making the path to the top more challenging.
Support from Manufacturers and Teams:

Spain and Italy: The presence of major motorcycle manufacturers and racing teams in these countries provides significant support and opportunities for local riders. This includes sponsorship, access to top-tier equipment, and development programs directly linked with these manufacturers.
UK: While British riders have historically found success in various classes of motorcycle racing, there's a notable absence of major motorcycle manufacturers based in the UK competing in MotoGP, which could limit the support and opportunities available to British riders compared to their Spanish and Italian counterparts.
Investment in the Sport:

Spain and Italy: Investments in motorcycle racing, from infrastructure to youth programs, are significant in these countries. The government and private sectors actively promote the sport, providing financial backing and resources necessary for cultivating talent.
UK: Investment in motorcycle racing exists, but the scale and focus might not match those in Spain and Italy. The broader focus on various motorsports can mean motorcycle racing receives a smaller portion of available resources, affecting the development pathways for riders.
Geographical and Climatic Advantages:

Spain and Italy: The favorable climate and availability of numerous racing circuits allow for year-round training and racing activities, giving riders from these countries a practical advantage in terms of practice and experience.
UK: The UK's climate is less conducive to year-round outdoor racing and training. This can limit on-track practice opportunities compared to the almost all-year favorable conditions in Spain and Italy.
These factors combined contribute to the strong presence of Spanish and Italian riders in MotoGP and the comparatively fewer British riders at the pinnacle of motorcycle racing.

"Why do you think the UK is lacking so much? Root cause please, keep it concise I haven't got all day pet"


Quote from: ChatGPT4
The root cause of the UK's comparative lack in MotoGP dominance can be attributed primarily to the combination of a less centralized motorcycling culture and the absence of a highly structured, clear development pathway for young talents that directly aligns with MotoGP. While the UK has a rich motorsport heritage, its resources and attention are spread across various types of motorsports, not as focused on motorcycle racing as in Spain and Italy. This broader focus dilutes the concentration of support, infrastructure, and development programs specifically tailored to progress young riders into MotoGP. Additionally, the lack of major motorcycle manufacturers in the UK participating in MotoGP limits the opportunities for direct support and development within the premier class of motorcycle racing.

Anyway, pick that apart :D. I only have 50 messages an hour and I need to work out why my AI thing isn't working right!
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black-k1's Bikes / Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Last Post by black-k1 on April 08, 2024, 01:49:54 pm »
So, a quick update now I'm 400 miles in on the new bike. Run-in will be complete after it's 600 mile oil change.

Firstly, it's very familiar, while also being different! The feel of the bike is the same. The controls are all in the same place but the mode of operation can be different. I thought I'd really miss the analogue tacho from the previous bike but I quite like the growing green line of the large TFT dash. A also find the electronic, semi-active suspension excellent, with it managing to soften up on bumpy Suffolk lanes while stiffening up when the road smooths out and the pace picks up. The "sky hook" technology appears excellent and keeps the whole thing steady and at a reasonably constant ride height.

The seat is definitely better than the previous Kawasaki unit but I'm still not sure I can retire my AirHawk seat cushion. I think it'll be getting a trip to the French Pyrenees.

I know I'm still running it in and l taking it gently, but the fuel consumption is definitely improved such that 220 is realistic to a tank. I have a weekend ride with some friends booked in a couple of weeks time. Mark, my Australian friend who is currently visiting the UK, will be riding my old H2 SX so I'll get a direct side-by-side comparison of fuel usage.

The active cruise control is both a benefit and a pain in equal measures. Firstly, the range of the radar re-sets to maximum every time the bike is switched off. Maximum is way too far away for my liking. Even medium is about 5ft longer than the distance I'd use to pull to the right lane for an overtake on a dual carriageway or motorway, which means that just as I'm making the shoulder check to move out, the bike starts decelerating. A little unnerving and frustrating. That said, being able to simply set the cruise in town, knowing it will speed up and slow down as the traffic ahead changes, is excellent.

I am also getting caught out in that, on the old bike, a light flick of the clutch lever would disable the cruise control, but not on the new bike. Instead, a hard close of the throttle seems to be the easiest way to disable it but that tends to happen after I've flicked the clutch lever only to find I'm not then slowing down!

The new bike has Brembo Stylema brakes fitted as standard. All the write-ups I read were saying how wonderful these brakes are but, in all honesty, I think there is just as much feel and bite from the Kawasaki brakes on the older bike. Both are excellent and pull 265kg of bike plus over 100kg of fully kitted rider to a controlled stop in very respectable distances. There's not much of a similar weight that can stop as short as a K1300S, but the H2 SX feels as if it's there.

The auto change of the dash colour/brightness according to ambient light is great and while I've not yet done a nigh ride, will, I'm sure, mike life a little easier.

One other minor frustration is that where the mirrors were crystal clear on the old one, regardless of either bike speed or engine speed, the mirrors on the new one do buzz very slightly at certain engine speeds. You can still see that there is something behind you but it's not so easy to tell if it has blue lights on the roof!

So, all in all, I'm still a very happy bunny and feel I've made absolutely the right choice of bike for how I ride.

Finally, I have been told that the newer '22 on bikes can now be flashed. There's no rush but I'll be looking at doing that at some point in the future. As with the old bike, more power is not required, but is always welcome.
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