Wrinklies Welsh Wramble

[Phmode]

My initial advice was for people to look at weather along a certain route rather than just weather.

The problem with a route of longer than half an hour is that the weather will have changed when you get there...

Currently sitting in Fairford with rain coming down in hammered stair-rods outside. How's that for a summer shower. At least Dark Sky forewarned us.

[raesewell]

I understand what you mean Brian, however on a bike you are not going to stop every 20 mins to look at your weather app. You need to look at the forecast and tog up accordingly and keep your fingers crossed that the forecaster got it right.
Or you can use that old fashioned device known as a window and your eyes 

[fjtwelve]

Much to my surprise I have remembered enough of what Rae told me last year to hack my way through tomtom mydrive and downloading/syncing the gpx routes to my phone TomTom. Don't ask me to do it again or show anyone mind, or ask me the difference between gpx and itn...

[fjtwelve]

I understand what you mean Brian, however on a bike you are not going to stop every 20 mins to look at your weather app. You need to look at the forecast and tog up accordingly and keep your fingers crossed that the forecaster got it right.
Or you can use that old fashioned device known as a window and your eyes 

Falmouth forecast: If I can see the Manacles its going to rain. If I can't see the Manacles it is raining (Manacles are a very nasty bunch of rocks on the horizon towards the Lizard).

[raesewell]

.itn is my route type of choice. The difference is a .gpx file sticks to the exact route no matter what, so if there are roadworks or road closures on route you're stuffed. The .itn route calculates a route from waypoint to waypoint and will re-route around road closures or roadworks. In the case of a waypoint being in the middle of roadworks or closure it will try to get you as close as possible, and you can delete the offending waypoint and carry on.

[Phmode]

I understand what you mean Brian, however on a bike you are not going to stop every 20 mins to look at your weather app. You need to look at the forecast and tog up accordingly and keep your fingers crossed that the forecaster got it right.
Or you can use that old fashioned device known as a window and your eyes 

I know I carry most things on the bike and have loads of bling, but a window is something that wasn't on the Wunderlich catalogue. Now searching ebay...

[raesewell]

You have a small window in your helmet 

[black-k1]

.itn is my route type of choice. The difference is a .gpx file sticks to the exact route no matter what, so if there are roadworks or road closures on route you're stuffed. The .itn route calculates a route from waypoint to waypoint and will re-route around road closures or roadworks. In the case of a waypoint being in the middle of roadworks or closure it will try to get you as close as possible, and you can delete the offending waypoint and carry on.

.itn is my route planning format of choice too but be careful when travelling as a group. On one of the Old Gits trips we had three people with the same model of Tomtom, the same release of the software, the same version of the maps and the same settings in preferences yet all three devices found different routes between the way-points. We assumed that the navigation devices throw in a degree of randomisation, especially if not using the "shortest" route option, to avoid consistently sending all traffic along the same roads thus restricting overall traffic flow.

If using .itn for group route planning then lots of way-points are a good idea but you then get back towards the road closure/delay issues you get with .gpx

[black-k1]

Enjoy your trip everybody!

[sudolea]

Enjoy your trip everybody!

Same from me !

[raesewell]

It's a shame you cannot be with us Philippe  next time maybe. Or maybe October if my Duffers trip goes ahead.

[sudolea]

Rae, it's not all too bad : subtracting 60 from 90 makes 30 other opportunities to join (thinking positive, that is) 

[Phmode]

Enjoy your trip everybody!

And you David! We'll be thinking about the midges but hopefully we all get decent weather.

[chriscanning]

Just hope you do not get a day like yesterday, we went Ponderosa and then to Barmouth, jeeze was like a bad in February even in a van it was interesting...although it did come good by 4 pm  but their are plus’s the human race disappeared for most of the day which was great.

And for you guys who haven’r gotten out much this Covid thing has had a serious effect on car drivers.....

[richtea]

And you David! We'll be thinking about the midges but hopefully we all get decent weather.

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