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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2024, 04:32:46 pm »
Oh well if it's only knees, you can get new ones  :winkthumbs:

Unfortunately Rae, nothing wrong with the joints. Er, badly worded methinks. 'tis the inflammatory arthritis rearing it’s ugly head.

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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2024, 06:41:58 pm »
Does the better seat mean that you don't need the Sargent seat?

And what about the ECU?,

The hope is that an alternatve seat is not needed. I'll let you know how that goes.

The 2022 on models use a Bosch ECU rather than a Kawasaki ECU. The Bossh one hasn't been cracked yet but I'm sure it will be. I'll get it flashed when the ECU is cracked.

The other difference is that Kawasaki now offer a 4 year warranty.
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2024, 08:49:36 pm »
The other difference is that Kawasaki now offer a 4 year warranty.

One more than a BMW. Another thing to like.

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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2024, 01:49:54 pm »
So, a quick update now I'm 400 miles in on the new bike. Run-in will be complete after it's 600 mile oil change.

Firstly, it's very familiar, while also being different! The feel of the bike is the same. The controls are all in the same place but the mode of operation can be different. I thought I'd really miss the analogue tacho from the previous bike but I quite like the growing green line of the large TFT dash. A also find the electronic, semi-active suspension excellent, with it managing to soften up on bumpy Suffolk lanes while stiffening up when the road smooths out and the pace picks up. The "sky hook" technology appears excellent and keeps the whole thing steady and at a reasonably constant ride height.

The seat is definitely better than the previous Kawasaki unit but I'm still not sure I can retire my AirHawk seat cushion. I think it'll be getting a trip to the French Pyrenees.

I know I'm still running it in and l taking it gently, but the fuel consumption is definitely improved such that 220 is realistic to a tank. I have a weekend ride with some friends booked in a couple of weeks time. Mark, my Australian friend who is currently visiting the UK, will be riding my old H2 SX so I'll get a direct side-by-side comparison of fuel usage.

The active cruise control is both a benefit and a pain in equal measures. Firstly, the range of the radar re-sets to maximum every time the bike is switched off. Maximum is way too far away for my liking. Even medium is about 5ft longer than the distance I'd use to pull to the right lane for an overtake on a dual carriageway or motorway, which means that just as I'm making the shoulder check to move out, the bike starts decelerating. A little unnerving and frustrating. That said, being able to simply set the cruise in town, knowing it will speed up and slow down as the traffic ahead changes, is excellent.

I am also getting caught out in that, on the old bike, a light flick of the clutch lever would disable the cruise control, but not on the new bike. Instead, a hard close of the throttle seems to be the easiest way to disable it but that tends to happen after I've flicked the clutch lever only to find I'm not then slowing down!

The new bike has Brembo Stylema brakes fitted as standard. All the write-ups I read were saying how wonderful these brakes are but, in all honesty, I think there is just as much feel and bite from the Kawasaki brakes on the older bike. Both are excellent and pull 265kg of bike plus over 100kg of fully kitted rider to a controlled stop in very respectable distances. There's not much of a similar weight that can stop as short as a K1300S, but the H2 SX feels as if it's there.

The auto change of the dash colour/brightness according to ambient light is great and while I've not yet done a nigh ride, will, I'm sure, mike life a little easier.

One other minor frustration is that where the mirrors were crystal clear on the old one, regardless of either bike speed or engine speed, the mirrors on the new one do buzz very slightly at certain engine speeds. You can still see that there is something behind you but it's not so easy to tell if it has blue lights on the roof!

So, all in all, I'm still a very happy bunny and feel I've made absolutely the right choice of bike for how I ride.

Finally, I have been told that the newer '22 on bikes can now be flashed. There's no rush but I'll be looking at doing that at some point in the future. As with the old bike, more power is not required, but is always welcome.
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2024, 02:36:13 pm »
Woo! I look forward to seeing how the dash looks. I like mine, all TFT stuff, though the newer ones of mine went all animated and stupid. I'm sure Kawasaki will have done a better job.

Hopefully the mirror vibrations are just a running-in thing and it'll settle down in a few miles.

Radar cruise eh. Can you turn on normo cruise still? The '23 SAS I tried from KTM still allows for it, I think in a setting somewhere or you can cycle through to it.

More range is always good!
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2024, 03:13:54 pm »
It's not possible to turn off the active part of the cruise control. Most of the time it's great but not remembering the setting for the range is frustrating.
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #36 on: April 08, 2024, 03:16:26 pm »
Nice comparison David. I have no idea why manufacturers have to tinker with what's not broke; I think they might have taken notice of the moans about the seat but why arse around with safety stuff like disabling the cruise.

All my older VAG cars have had cruise and it always disengaged if you changed down heading into a roundabout for example and also when you changed up. I nearly binned swimbo's car when I turned it left on a small roundabout having changed down and as I straightened up it suddenly accelerated back up to 30 and scared me witless as it power-steered its way across the white line. When I rang the man they said 'ah yes, two different modes of cruise fitted to our cars recently...'. Oh well, that's OK then! Of course, on a car's controls there is plenty of room for the cruise and disengaging it is easy-peasy, not so on a bike I guess.

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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2024, 03:31:03 pm »
Kawasaki have moved from an unbranded ECU in the old bike to a Bosch ECU in the new one. This may be part of the solution to meet the Euro 5 requirements, though that's just my guess. The change of ECU supplier opened up a whole range of alternative functions not available via the old ECU, hence some of the fiddling.

Things like the brake changes were likely a result of the launch of the Hayabusa. It uses Brembo Stylema brakes and I think Kawasaki and Suzuki share quite a lot of their supply lines so I expect the volume purchase of the Brembo brakes probably brought them down to be cost effective vs. the Kawasaki brakes. It's also a book marketing point as the Stylema brakes are, I think, one of the current fashion items. :D

But, THE most important change is the colour, which is now majority black so must have significantly increased performance as a result! ;)
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2024, 03:36:49 pm »
When I rang the man they said 'ah yes, two different modes of cruise fitted to our cars recently...'. Oh well, that's OK then!

Yup, I have the same fun - two vehicles made by the same manufacturer but 3 years difference and the algorithm changed. Disabling cruise control on a gear change is the right thing to do if you use gears to scrub a little speed off. But obviously that's not the done thing nowadays - 'S' is before G' in IPSGA and all that. "Gears to go, brakes to slow." My arse.

The 'good' car that disables it on a gear change is black. If that isn't a hint as to the correct action, I don't know what is.

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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #39 on: April 11, 2024, 06:48:42 pm »
It's not possible to turn off the active part of the cruise control. Most of the time it's great but not remembering the setting for the range is frustrating.

Yes it is possible to turn off the active bit and have "Old fashioned" cruise control! 

I really should RTFM!
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Re: Kawasaki H2 SX SE - Number 2
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2024, 03:18:09 am »
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