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Offline colin72blue

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K1300 differences
« on: September 04, 2021, 09:33:30 am »
Just joined here as looking to get a K1300S or possibly an R.

It will be a second bike alongside a KTM 950 adventure and will probably only come out when i want to stretch its legs, very occasional London commute, and potentially a long distance tour. My first question i suppose is how does the R fair as a tourer in regards to wind protection and noise on long motorway stints? Is it vastly different from an S or minimal? Had a 1200 bandit many years ago which was great but once above 100 you really had to hang on and got buffeted all over the place. Granted i dont ride that fast these days!

On the S models am i better off with a later model or were the changes throughout the life minor?

Have seen the HP and motorsport version and particularly like the motorsport. Were these a limited run as very few for sale and the only motorsport version is £13k. Is this a reasonable price for this model (and it is low mileage)? Also seen a nice 2014 black sport model at a bmw dealer.

Part of me likes the idea of buying through a dealer (especially BMW) for an element of comfort and also i can trade another bike against it as no success selling it so far.

Thanks in advance

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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2021, 11:39:49 am »
Hi Colin,

As always, the later the model you can afford the better, commensurate with low mileage and full BMW service history. Touch nothing earlier than 2008 when major updates and improvements were made.

The limited edition models don't do much that a stock model does apart from look good and have some annoying parts added like the adjustable but non-folding footpegs which can damage your shins when moving the bike about in the garage, difficult to clean forged wheels and some flashy paintwork.

Get one with all the toys you will need or want; adding sport cases later can be an expensive proposition.

Personally I wouldn't ride an R as I do travel faster than comfortable on a semi-naked, but then, I don't like the look of the R so that makes the decision easy for me.

All the later models have some foibles such as the dreaded hot-start issue and ongoing switch failures, all covered under warranty from a BM dealer, and as the only marque with a buyable 'eternal' warranty for about £1 a day, that is well worth having as an insurance against such things?

Paintwork on things like the rear swing arm/drive unit and engine covers as well as front 'forks' is prone to bubbling and peeling, so make sure is perfect in that regard. My 2012 S was perfect when I bought it at 3 years old but has now succombed, much to my dismay. Brian

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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2021, 03:03:51 pm »
Hi Colin

Welcome to the forum. I have a BMW k1300R which is the third one I have owned and recently purchased.

Personally I don't like the K1300s. It's heavier, the styling looks old in my opinion, and its more difficult to spot the dreaded flaking and bubbling paint under the fairings. I have ridden several S models and the weight is apparent, especially when pushing it about the garage. I must admit though in my opinion the Motorsport S version does look the nicest of the S series.

I totally agree with Brian about the aforementioned warranty. These bikes are expensive if they break, an indicator unit £250.00 and a rear ESA shock £2200 plus the labour to fit it. The extended warranty also only covers certain item up to 30k miles, the ESA being one of those that fall out of warranty at that mileage.  So the lower the mileage you can get, with full BMW history, the better.

If you want a fairly low mileage K1300r that's not been too messed with then you might have a long wait. I had been looking just short of two years to get my one. Lots are advertised as excellent but on closer inspection are from it. It seems some bikes just corrode and other fair very well, though these are few and far between.

I have been to Italy, Switzerland and Germany on a K1200r and a K1300r and never found the wind buffeting to be an issue for me, but I am short.

I would estimate there were about seven S models sold to every R so you are much more likely to find and S in good condition.

Sport panniers usually sell for about £350.00 for the pair on ebay. The mounting rack doesn't appear very often but can still be bought brand new with fitting kit for about £150. Panniers new are £600.00 the pair plus the locks and even more to match it to the ignition key of the bike. So to endorse Brian's comments get them with the bike if possible.

Good luck with what ever you choose S or R. This time mine is a keeper. Regretted it every time I sold one. They are fantastic pieces of kit.
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2021, 03:08:09 pm »
Thanks both for the advice. Really need to get out and ride a few and see what floats my boat.

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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2021, 04:46:28 pm »
OK, here's my thoughts for what they are worth. Firstly, I want a bike that will take me, pillion and luggage quickly and comfortably to the Alps/Pyrenees, where I can then play with the sports bikes on the passes without being embarrassed, the then return me, pillion and luggage back quickly and comfortably.

Both the R and the S have engines capable of doing 12 hour/600 mile days. I've never owned an R but cant see it being as comfortable at such days as the S, especially if, having just done one big fast day, you then need to get up and do another, like getting to/from the Dolomites quickly. :D As such, the R has never been an option for me.

I commuted for 6 years from Suffolk to the South Bank on my K1300Ss and they make surprisingly good London commuters. They're no 250cc super scoot but they're surprisingly narrow for filtering, have a great road presence, especially with an HID conversion, and are pretty economical (47 to 52 mpg). They're low C of G makes then easier than you'd expect to move around and they can win most traffic light GPs to clear the other traffic.

As I mentioned on another thread, the only extra on the MotorSport that is really worth having is the Akra can. The Motorsports weren't so much a "limited run" but a "let's clear the shelves of all the unsold bling at the end of this model range" run.

While the Motorsport has the racing colours and thus the fastest paint job, I think the all black ones are almost as quick. (Ask Brian. ;)  ). The orange are definitely the slowest! :D

I wouldn't worry too much about dealer or private purchase as long as it's got a full dealer service history and can be covered by the extended warranty. Do watch out though (read the small print!) as there are a couple of regular issues that are not covered by the warranty. I don't know if the bunged up radiator is one, for example.

I was convinced that the K1300S was the best "do everything well" road bike you could buy. Every bike is a compromise but the K1300S is one of the least compromised. Now, I think it's bettered only by the KTM SD1290 GT and the Kawasaki H2 SX. I think 3rd place is bloody impressive for a bike that's over 10 years old.
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2021, 05:21:13 pm »
3rd place sounds pretty good for a 10 year old bike i could get for circa £6k ish.

GT doesn't quite do it for me but the H2 would be an option but then its almost twice the price and the looks haven't grown on me yet. Theres just something about the K1300S.


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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2021, 06:06:18 pm »
I’ll be interested to hear what your thoughts are after you have ridden one, ,my K is a league away from a stocker but it’s still a big old bus from another era, nowt wrong with that if that’s what floats your boat and i’m Certainly in no rush to sell mine sorry.... ours...anytime soon.

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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2021, 07:11:46 am »
The problem is that you cant just go to a dealer and test ride an R or S. I have had a 1300s and now on to my second R. The R for me is lighter and has lower gearing and accelerates faster- more suited to "urban" riding. Have been on long tours with the R and distance and high speed were not an issue. The R also has the exclusive and rare factor. The S is aimed at hyper touring with higher gearing and twin air filters to enable high speed touring. Both are brilliant bikes, you would enjoy either :)   
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2021, 12:16:28 pm »
Any dealer with either in stock should offer a test ride. I know it was almost six years ago now, but I test rode four 13S's, all overpriced and all dogs.

None of the main dealers' salesmen knew anything about the spec of any of the bikes and the guy at Bahnstormers didn't even know if it had Sport Cases but later told me he thought it had panniers...

I rode straight over and it was parked outside the window right by his desk.

I bought mine from Regency Super Sports in Chesterfield, an independent who specialises in buying ex-PCP (or whatever it was called). 3 years old, immaculate, 7,500 miles all spent touring and the guy knew the spec down to the last button and switch. And the price wasn't main dealer stupid.

Test ride on a freezing January day, bought it there and then. Rode it three miles and pulled into a filling station and parked it in front of a police car at the pumps and in one of those flashes of brilliance one gets every now and then, suddenly thought 'Hm, better sort out the insurance then.'  :o Took my jacket off and draped it sexily over the back of the bike, filled the tank and pushed the bike off the pumps...

Went in and paid, bought a coffee and came out to get the paperwork from the tank bag. The copper was all over it, but luckily, he was a biker and had had a K12. It took four horrid coffes and a tasteless sarnie before I was legal and I could get my jacket back on   8)

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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2021, 02:22:21 pm »
I have the "R" and like most on here wont be selling it any time soon, I've had it four years and it's been brilliant, easy to do 400+ miles in a day and not on motorways, thanks to this forum the rad gets lots of attention and is still like new, although I don't have to ride in bad weather, I had the mapping  looked at by BSD and it runs smooth and pulls like a train, took the OE screen off and fitted a smaller carbon fibre one, purely for looks but I haven't noticed any more wind blast ( i am a short arse though). I've removed the stone guard/crud catcher from the rad with no adverse effects in fact we went on the Rolling Thunder protest ride a couple of weeks ago and the engine spent quite a bit of time on the limiter as we crawled through London to parliament square, and the weather was quite warm.
We've only seen one other on the road and that was in France.
It's a pity BMW didn't keep it going, I'd have a new one tomorrow.

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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2021, 09:08:34 pm »
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2021, 11:22:55 pm »
Not many left with such low mileage as that. However, I agree - about £1-1.5k too high.

However, this is a steal, if you're after a low mileage one:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202108246604765?sort=mileage&radius=1500&postcode=de30sg&advertising-location=at_bikes&model=K1300S&include-delivery-option=on&make=BMW&page=1

[EDIT: though the paint scheme isn't quite right. Someone has dropped it, problably gently on its side.]
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2021, 07:16:27 am »
Not many left with such low mileage as that. However, I agree - about £1-1.5k too high.

However, this is a steal, if you're after a low mileage one:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202108246604765?sort=mileage&radius=1500&postcode=de30sg&advertising-location=at_bikes&model=K1300S&include-delivery-option=on&make=BMW&page=1

[EDIT: though the paint scheme isn't quite right. Someone has dropped it, problably gently on its side.]

Yeah it's had the old black bits made red, and a black stripe at the bottom of the side fairings, is that new? Does look well cared for though! £7.5k eh!
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Re: K1300 differences
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2021, 07:47:17 am »
Got the old tank out yesterday for the wed meet...at least it has a 1300 gearbox.


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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2021, 02:56:48 pm »
I'm greedy / lucky and have an S and an R!! Per several above  I find the S marginally more comfortable (as does Mrs W) and slightly easier to handle as the seat shape enables me (at 5ft 7) to get both feet nicely on the ground. R is deffo geared lower and feels much more of a beast- if having a good day it really does feel like a hooligan tool (and that's with me captain slow meets miss daisy in charge)! Both economical pretty much however you ride em (50 mpg plus) and both cam do pretty much whatever you want them to, other than off roading I'd imagine). Both good two up but the R does feel slightly more top heavy. Be worth trying both if you can as although very similar in so far as frame engine at  they are actually quite different!! (If that makes sense). Cheers,
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