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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2020, 11:15:15 am »
Sorry for all the updates folks . It's as things come to me.
Heading into John Clark today , will get more info. If needs be I may ask if they can get fault codes for the abs and then look into pulling it out and getting it refurbed (in for a penny in for a pound ) I guess. I've looked up rae links but also If anyone else has possible places to try 
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2020, 12:04:15 pm »
If pistons have been sticking you could easily have boiled the fluid. Brakes at the best of times can be a sod to bleed, even for a main dealer with the correct equipment. Is it possible that there is still air in the system throwing up the fault.
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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2020, 12:10:32 pm »
I would hope that such a schoolboy issue would have been their 1st port of call. I appreciate everyone can miss things. The old , pull the lever to the bar and tie it overnight is something I always remember  :). 

But will find out when I go in I guess
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2020, 04:37:49 pm »
I remember reading a service bulitin for bleeding the brakes on the K1200s K1200r K1300s and K1300r, it was pointing out that when replacing the pads the piston should not be pushed back into the caliper without opening the bleed nipple first on that caliper, forcing the fluid back into the ABS Modulator can damage it, the other reason was any SH1t or bits in the caliper coulds also end up in the workings of the unit.
It is also advisable to change the fluid every 12 to 24 months or when changing the pads.

Also the brakes on all the above can not be bleed correctly without a diagnostic tool.

Perhaps Costas will be along shortly to confirm this,   or not,   8) ;D ;D
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2020, 04:50:25 pm »
Well if that's true about pushing the pistons back then that's whats caused my problem as that's what I was doing
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2020, 05:43:12 pm »
Makes sense ! And point noted. Thank you.

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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2020, 08:11:56 pm »
Me again guys, just had a look at the reprom, there’s no mention of not pushing back the Caliper pistons , in fact they even described doing so with their special tool. So I imagine there’s been a problem in the past with debris getting back flushed into the ABS unit, bleeding the system seems pretty normal .
Before I change the pads I’ll flush out the system with new fluid to minimise any dirt ingress.
We had the problem on the wife’s car, series 1, another common problem. Brake fluid is hygroscopic and the moisture  that gets into the fluid rusts up the valves in the ABS distribution block, for a while they repaired it as a goodwill gesture, when that finished they discounted the valve block by 60%, we missed that boat too  and had to pay £600

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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2020, 08:20:22 pm »
Been out for a 160 mile round trip today, the first ride on the K since lockdown began. I damaged the cartilages in my wrists this time last year and they are not right yet, and maybe never will but as well as my braking hand suffering from too much work, I did get the impression that my brakes weren't up to scratch. Methinks it might have to go in for a brake overhaul before the Wrinklies trip.

Oh, and I need many more miles before then, totally knackered  ::)
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2020, 08:31:16 pm »
Brian maybe a fluid change in both units ! Dot 4 for the bike and a nice red wine for you ......

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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2020, 09:50:59 pm »
I agree, on both counts Mick...

The bike has only done two Wrinklies trips in the last two years plus a bit of local stuff for various reasons and the fluid certainly needs renewing.

I was thinking of popping it into Cotswold Motorrad but I've heard not good things about them so will probably take it back to North Oxford in whom I have more confidence.

Unfortunately today is a fast day (5/2 diet) so no red liquid for me  ::)
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« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2020, 10:11:04 pm »
Not good news then, I knocked the booze on the head just after the lockdown shut the pubs , lost over a stone.
Going to change out the fluid in the brakes when I get 5 mins before I get any probs.
I’ve just done the Jeep but I sucked out the master cyl then just kept filling and bleeding through each wheel, I couldn’t find the ABS unit to see if there were any bleed nipples on it but they work fine now inc the ABS.

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« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2020, 12:07:41 pm »
I've been pushing the pistons in too when changing pads .  :-[
Bike received back today. Now to nose about eBay/breakers for parts
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2020, 12:56:37 pm »
Quote from: Sutty on July 30, 2020, 10:11:04 pm
Not good news then, I knocked the booze on the head just after the lockdown shut the pubs , lost over a stone.
Going to change out the fluid in the brakes when I get 5 mins before I get any probs.
I’ve just done the Jeep but I sucked out the master cyl then just kept filling and bleeding through each wheel, I couldn’t find the ABS unit to see if there were any bleed nipples on it but they work fine now inc the ABS.

Mick

Since lockdown started the only thing I've been drinking is my home brew. Luckily I am woeful at planning, so, having just got to the bottom of the keg of pilsner I made, I now have at least 4 weeks until I can drink again. Pretty good yo-yo drinking diet :P. It could be 8 weeks if I get two brews going, due to infrastructure constraints.
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Re: Some movement in front wheel - couple of creaks etc
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2020, 01:00:41 pm »
The pubs are open you know...
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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2020, 01:55:02 pm »
Update...I have brakes.

I have aftermarket levers on the bike and at some point the adjustment has moved past the end point ...they have 6 settings and I have them on 5/6 . They were adjusted off the scale or turned off the scale but it having moved it back it would appear I have front brakes and the lever does not come back to the bar.
I'll go back out again in a wee while and check it's not due to me pumping the brake that I have brakes . That's a ray of sunshine.
If it is that simple a fix, that's a little worrying but then we can all miss the little things at times. 

Much obliged to all whom gave contributed so far though...anyone ever passing Aberdeen is welcome to an appropriately distanced drink ...coffee...beer ...hot choc  ;D
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