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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2023, 10:15:13 pm »
Very late to the party.. but whats the experienced ones saying regarding double bubbles?  Why is MRA better? They seem harder to come across now, but powerbronze  do have a few left on stock..

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2023, 11:40:01 pm »
I run a smoked Powerbronze (obviously, it's a black on black bike...) which for me is way better than the stock screen but I am a short-bodied tyke despite having 33" legs so I sit lower in the seat than someone like Richard who, er, doesn't and obviously your good self.

Martin (fjtwelve) runs an MRA with the flip up small screen and he swears by it/them.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2023, 12:53:24 am »
The fitted stock screen wasnt' too bad tbh, but also want the black on black, and double bubble makes more sense   :thumbup:

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2023, 06:35:30 am »
Have you ridden it two up yet,cuz it’s a whole new ball game riding one of these with a passenger.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2023, 08:14:25 am »
While I understand the aesthetic requirement for a black on black screen I'd recommend give the standard one a bit of time.  All of my miles were done with a standard screen with no issues and that included some 600+ mile and some 12 hour days.
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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2023, 09:15:25 am »
Have you ridden it two up yet,cuz it’s a whole new ball game riding one of these with a passenger.

No not yet. Are you talking about the bike in general or with different screens?

Any info would be much appreciated. I'm 6.3 and 105kg,.my wife is tiny in comparison..(5.4 and not very heavy.)

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2023, 11:04:39 am »
As I have said many times in here, the one bodily dimension no one ever bothers with is seated height. Clothes manufacturers use leg length, height etc, but no one bothers with the body length.

Mostly this is irrelevant, but when it comes to riding a bike (motor as opposed to push, cos push have multi adjustable saddles) the length of one's seated bod is the crucial factor when it comes to screen effectiveness, together with reach to the bars and how far forward/back you sit.

I'm a tea-leaf under 5'10" but with 33" inside leg I am shorter sitting down than swimbo who is only 5'4" standing up.

I never got on with the stock screen on the K12 and put a double bubble on it; a blue one obviously, cos it was a blue bike. The K13 came with a black Powerbronze and I have stuck with it.

I doubt anyone else's recommendation is worth much unless they have exactly the same bike and exactly the same head position in relation to the screen whilst riding.

As an aside, I did an off-road training day on the Honda Rally and spent a lot of it standing up on the pegs. On the ride home, all of 5 miles, I couldn't understand why I was getting so much helmet buffeting. This at all of 60mph.

Then I realised that I had moved the TomTom up a tad to get a better view of it whilst standing. It sits up high but normally totally behind the tall screen and now it was protruding about 2" above it. Moving it back to where it was before and all the buffeting disappeared. Maybe Honda got the screen height right for me and the stock aerodynamics spot on too, although many other taller seated riders complain about it endlessly.

But you have to have a black screen on a black bike...

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2023, 01:42:59 pm »
While I understand the aesthetic requirement for a black on black screen I'd recommend give the standard one a bit of time.  All of my miles were done with a standard screen with no issues and that included some 600+ mile and some 12 hour days.

Exactly. And at 6'3" you'll find the standard screen is fabulous for keeping your belly wind-free - ewwww.

At decent speeds the protection moves up to about mid-chest height.

Nothing is going to give you BMW RT protection, and I find having my helmet way above near the turbulent air is fine up to about 90-95mph. Beyond that you need a strong neck, but you're not getting that much buffeting - just constant force.

Randomly I've found the worst turbluence is from clothing. I wear leathers (smooth), but with waterproofs on I get buffeting about 70mph. Probably God's way of telling you to slow down in the rain.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2023, 02:29:46 pm »
Have you ridden it two up yet,cuz it’s a whole new ball game riding one of these with a passenger.

No not yet. Are you talking about the bike in general or with different screens?

Any info would be much appreciated. I'm 6.3 and 105kg,.my wife is tiny in comparison..(5.4 and not very heavy.)

Talking about both and I’d spend absolutely nothing till you have had a good day out riding two up then have a chat for your wife’s two penneth.

I could give you a list as long as your arm what we have changed on ours getting it right,but that was after a few miles and compared to other bikes we have.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2023, 05:22:58 pm »
Awesome insights Everyone!  Im going to focus on riding position 1st and raise the bars and lower the pegs. Thisus was the obvios choice from the 1st ride. The new screen was primarily for aesthetic reasons, as I do agree ...a black bike needs a black screen. I have a fully blacked out/de-chromed van which the bike sitting next to it looks pretty cool! but having never used a double bubble and being tall I just assumed it would be better option for me than stock. I am curious to seat height now. Im not sure which one is on it so will need to confirm and factor that in also


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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2023, 06:07:51 pm »
Your bike has the standard height seat, as indicated by the two 'slashes' on each side that I can see in your pic.
The lowered seat only has one 'slash'.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2023, 06:17:03 pm »
Your bike has the standard height seat, as indicated by the two 'slashes' on each side that I can see in your pic.
The lowered seat only has one 'slash'.

thanks for confirming!  is the 'standard seat' most suited for my height? Its very comfortable.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2023, 09:50:34 pm »
That all depends on the state of your knees...

A lower seat means the screen is relatively taller but your knees are up round your ears...

Stick with the stock taller seat. You can fit the top clamp off the R to give you mega high and wider bars but for a cleaner and more subtle lift Helibars are best.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2023, 11:32:12 pm »
Your bike has the standard height seat, as indicated by the two 'slashes' on each side that I can see in your pic.
The lowered seat only has one 'slash'.

thanks for confirming!  is the 'standard seat' most suited for my height? Its very comfortable.

I'd say it's just about OK. The lower seat would have my knees folded a bit too much. However, I do find that after about an hour it's a bit too soft. Hence I fitted a Sargent seat after trying Brian's out (thanks Brian!). Same height but a more curved/bucket shape, and a bit firmer.

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Re: K1200S Double Bubble Screen
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2023, 12:20:58 pm »
And the flip side of that is that the Sargent Seat almost crippled David when we did a bike swap on the old gits trip. Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice...

Strange thins is, he now runs a Sargent on his Kwak...