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General forum area => K1200 / K1300 Forum => Bikes With Ongoing Problems ONLY; please post initial problems in the relevant forum! => Topic started by: Phmode on March 08, 2017, 02:08:50 pm
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In an attempt to get some statistical information on K12/1300 fuel consumption I've started this poll which will run and run.
If you keep long-term records please tell us what your bike is getting to the UK gallon.
K1200 and K1300's only please, but any year, any model and any state of tune! The differences in the real world are insignificant.
You can have 3 goes at the poll to allow for multiple ownership or for historical and current records. (e.g. I currently only have a K1300 but have records from my previous bike, a K1200.)
[Having just placed my 'first' vote, it doesn't seem to want to let me vote again so I obviously don't understand how this works! It seems that you can have up to 3 'votes' as long as you do them all at once ::) This also means that I can't put my figures in for my two bikes as they are both the same >:( ]
In theory, you can edit your figures if you are only just starting to keep records so new owners can still play! I have no idea how, or even if, this works!
I've done the conversion for you Europeans and 'Murricans. Sorry about the proliferation of decimal places but that's what you get for not being British ;D
I realise the official EU figures use litres per 100 kilometres but I am assured that real human beings use kilometres per litre 8) and the figures for our cousins across the pond are truly scary for us Brits :o )
'Foreigners' welcome as long as you convert the figures to Imperial gallons and use Statute miles; sorry but the on-line converter has limited functionality.
Brian (who has never done this before so heaven only knows if it will work ::) )
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OK, who had their three goes and managed 42-44, 47 and 51-53?
That is one hell of a spread for three K12/13's!
Come on, own up ;D
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Currently 43.71mpg over 33295 miles
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This site gives a good idea of mpg for the K1300S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1300s
and for the K1200S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1200s
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OK, who had their three goes and managed 42-44, 47 and 51-53?
That is one hell of a spread for three K12/13's!
Come on, own up ;D
Xaxaxaxaxaxaxax ;D :o :D :)
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This site gives a good idea of mpg for the K1300S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1300s
and for the K1200S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1200s
Gawd knows what they are doing; especially the K13 seems awfully low and it is a very small sample of bikes, especially of late.
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This site gives a good idea of mpg for the K1300S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1300s
and for the K1200S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1200s
Gawd knows what they are doing; especially the K13 seems awfully low and it is a very small sample of bikes, especially of late.
At the top left you need to change units to UK
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Well spoted.
We all know 13 burns less fuel. rufly one less per 100 kms , at list this is the verdict here.
Let's wait and see what the poll says.
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This site gives a good idea of mpg for the K1300S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1300s
and for the K1200S http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/bmw/k1200s
Gawd knows what they are doing; especially the K13 seems awfully low and it is a very small sample of bikes, especially of late.
At the top left you need to change units to UK
No one said you had to be clever to be in here 8)
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So far I'm sure that my K1200S used less fuel than the K1300S.
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...and so far, mine is about the same, only about 4,000 on it to date so a bit soon to tell perhaps.
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My 2006 K1200S returned under 40MPG.
My 2014 K1300S returns 44 MPG
For comparison - my previous Triumph Sprint ST would return circa 60 MPG.
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Jeez! I'd slash my wrists!
Have you skewed the voting with your figures 8)
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Just a quick boost for the poll if you have the data and want to share it... ;D
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My last fuel up gave me 49.5 mpg.
352.6 miles and used 32.38 litres of Tesco's cheapest.
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My last fuel up gave me 49.5 mpg.
352.6 miles and used 32.38 litres of Tesco's cheapest.
They run better, and further, on Tesco's finest. Low rev pick-up is much improved using 99RON
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I vote for Momentum too! Great fuel and ClubCard points to boot, what's not to love?
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And since Tom woke the thread up, my figures:
- worst: 42mpg last weekend on the way to Oulton Park with a lot of clear Sunday morning motorway. Ouch. Had to stop earlier than planned.
- best: 58mpg in a group ride with advanced riders. Gentle acceleration, barely any braking, and staying nearish the speed limit (+10mph). The challenge isn't going quick, it's guesing what the 'advanced' bloke in front is going to do next - brake on the corner or fiddle with his sat-nav whislt wandering across the lane ::)
On average its just a whisker under 50mpg, which is fabulous from 1300cc. That's a cross-country sort of figure, i.e. pottering in and out of towns & villages in-between the blasts.
All on basic 95RON.
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327 kms and 180 minutes ride with average speed acoarding to bikes cluster 114,3 kms per hour.
This on a full tank with pillion and the big 55lit bag. At gas station 100 meters (lukcily) fm home read was 13kms left.
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Thought i would take part with new bike.
16reg K1300S with 4500 miles now. Mainly commuting at the moment but can certainly vary depending on conditions. Now into driving to work in the dark which slows me down a bit.
Metzeler roadtec 5.
Last fill was about 18 litres and averaged 49 mpg and light on at 160.
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2009 1300S with K&N air filters usually 51.5, 2015 motorsport standard 49.
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Good to hear from again Andy 8)
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Mine runs 55 mpg on average a little bit more if all motorway.
Steve
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Hi All,
To be honest have not been monitoring the consumption on the motorcycle as I have only covered some 1500 miles since purchase in the UK last years 2023 special ed . Last fill light on at 99 miles longest run was about 40 miles on B roads and the rest urban computer saying 21mules to stop 15.5 liters to refill would seem a bit on the heavy side.
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Hi All,
To be honest have not been monitoring the consumption on the motorcycle as I have only covered some 1500 miles since purchase in the UK last years 2023 special ed . Last fill light on at 99 miles longest run was about 40 miles on B roads and the rest urban computer saying 21mules to stop 15.5 liters to refill would seem a bit on the heavy side.
Powering that time machine must be heavy on fuel!!! :D
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I think the power consumption is worse if you are in reverse drive all the time...
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K1300GT
58,000miles average 56.5mpg
Best: 67.2mpg at an average speed of 47mph
Worst: 33mpg (awful urban journeys)
Interesting: 49.5mpg at an average speed of 75mph (220 miles between fills not stops)
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If they are computer figures you have to remember computer speak with fork tongue.
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The consumption figures are all calculated from trip mileage using brim to brim refuelling.
The trip computer makes the figures 8% better on average but at least that's more accurate than some car trip computers where optimism can exceed 20%
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I saw something other day that showed stock K1300 running AFRs at 13.4 all way up to about 8k before mixture richens, joys of emissions control stuff I guess.
That being the case I wonder if ours are a little thirstier when moderately worked such that the efficiency drops, I can't really speak for part throttle cruising as I avoid mways and dual carriageways like the plague (went to Blackpool from near Wakefield without touching a one between xmas and new year).
Would suggest tho that with a power commander or a remap at a suitably competent dyno place, there should be a chunk of power left on the table if you ran it a bit richer under load.
That said - I see Ricardo had to get involved to sort the fuelling out for BMW so if an F1 engineering place says it runs at 13.4 AFR - who the hell am I to argue!
https://ricardo.com/news-and-media/ricardo-quarterly-magazine/2009/ricardo-quarterly-q2-2009 (https://ricardo.com/news-and-media/ricardo-quarterly-magazine/2009/ricardo-quarterly-q2-2009)
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After just over 1,000 miles on my K1300 GT, the average is 51mpg using super unleaded throughout.
This compares with 53mpg for a Kawasaki Versys 1000 (Mk 11) and 49 mpg for a Kawasaki GTR 1400, these over some 12,000 miles each. The Kawasaki's were run on ordinary unleaded, not super.
I only ride for pleasure, so usually there is little town work involved.
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After major engine rebuilt, actually new engine block with a rrebuilt head, we left all exhaust and intake valves completely open , bike now is faster but consumption is now significantly elevated. Before 5,3 to 5,9 was the readings before, now 6,4 to 7,3 is the new reading. I guess that makes it less than 51mpg.
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After major engine rebuilt, actually new engine block with a rrebuilt head, we left all exhaust and intake valves completely open , bike now is faster but consumption is now significantly elevated. Before 5,3 to 5,9 was the readings before, now 6,4 to 7,3 is the new reading. I guess that makes it less than 51mpg.
I guess you don't really mean 'we left all exhaust and intake valves completely open' Costas, or the engine wouldn't work. What exactly did you do to make things worse?