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Euro K Club Events / Re: Welsh Wramble 2022
« on: September 01, 2022, 07:37:18 pm »
Looks good ! Have fun ! I'll be riding around in Slovenia around that time, otherwise I would have been riding with you.

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Euro K Club Events / Re: Welsh Wramble 2022
« on: August 20, 2022, 09:10:36 pm »
Or...

I could just use my sat nag  8)

I thought that method was too difficult for you. Sorry for misjudging the situation  :D

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Euro K Club Events / Re: Welsh Wramble 2022
« on: August 20, 2022, 09:01:39 pm »
Well that's all well and good but what if the Earth and Mars swapped places tomorrow?

Then you'd use the compass anyway, and make that yearly-changing magnetic deviation correction, of course.

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Euro K Club Events / Re: Welsh Wramble 2022
« on: August 20, 2022, 08:14:46 pm »
...
Now, which way was north again?

You could use a compass. But I bet your question originated from you having too much trouble correcting a compass' magnetic heading to true North. Indeed, the more North you're located, the bigger that correction gets : too much trouble.

So I suggest the time-based method : quite a lot simpler !

The Bryncelyn Guesthouse's exit is located at 52°06'27.1"N 3°38'20.1"W, or in decimals : 52.107519N, 3.638926W.

In Greenwich, in the summer, the sun is right in the East at 6 o'clock UTC, so 7 o'clock UK local time. The sun moves 360° in 24 hours, so 15° per hour, so 1° every 4 minutes. So at Bruncelyn's exit, the sun is exactly East 3.638926 (in decimals) degrees later, which is exactly 3.638926 x 4 minutes, or 14,555704 minutes, or 14 minutes and 33 seconds later.

All this together means that at Bryncelyn's exit, the sun is exactly East at 7 hr 14 minutes and 33 seconds in the morning. But you asked where North was, not East, so there's some more to it ...

At that calculated time, look straight into the sun, and then look left in a perfect 90° angle : the direction then pointed at by your nose, thát's where true North is  8)

(hope for a clear sky !)

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Matt's Bikes / Re: Bike Six: KTM Superduke 1290GT
« on: June 23, 2022, 09:09:00 am »
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I didn't know you had a 1600...  :winkthumbs:
...

<confused mode>I don't  ???</confused mode>

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Matt's Bikes / Re: Bike Six: KTM Superduke 1290GT
« on: June 22, 2022, 07:53:50 pm »
... the Missenden flyer's review ... It sounded a bit bargey. ...

I don't think the guy riding his K1600GT in the link below would agree with that statement... He abused (or I could just as well say : "really used properly") his K1600GT ... Including footpegs touching the ground. I doubt if the average K1300S rider could follow this guy. I couldn't have done so...
https://youtu.be/xTZa2iSyn-g?t=120

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 30, 2022, 09:29:29 am »
I can send you that spreadsheet if you'd like to compare any other bike. And even share it with anyone you like, even online, but I just don't feel too much sharing anything publicly on Google (anyone can call me "security-paranoid", but I don't do this). In case you 'd want to compare all these different bikes you mention with bike-specific data, you'd just need the reductions (primary, secundary, gears), the (back) tyre measure, and the torque sheet. So if you want, PM me with your email address, and I'll send it by mail.

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 29, 2022, 07:51:36 pm »
I wasn't referring to comparing bikes with one another, I was referring to the torque tables I made before for my own "just-for-fun" exercise. Based on these 2 tables from some days ago (the one of my own bike and the one of the K1300S), there is no extra dimension needed. The 2 tables from before showed torque values. So : expressed in Nm.

And to calculate from there the force, delivered at the back wheel (the "thrust", expressed in N), if I didn't make any logical errors, the only extra calculations to be done are :
1. take the torque of the engine at that speed's rpm (in Nm) in that gear,
2. multiply it by all reductions of the concerned gear, and
3. divide it by the (back) wheel's radius (in m). The result's unit dimension is then N.

So e.g. taking the 140Nm, delivered from the K1300S's engine in first gear at it's 100 km/hr's rpm ...
1. the torque is 140 Nm,
2. multiplied by 10.085 (being the primary reduction x secundary reduction x the first gear's reduction),
3. divided by the 0.32 m of the K1300S's back wheel (the value I used)
results in a force of 4406.8 N which is the maximum force the K1300S ever delivers at it's back wheel. Above this speed, the values only decrease.

This must be the number you were after initially, isn't it ?

Indeed, if you want to compare bikes to one another (which wasn't my initial goal), you'd need to add a third dimension. But as from (rough guess) about 100 km/hr, everything will become very unreliable, as the force result will be significantly biased by aerodynamical drag if you ask me... Whereas below that speed, it's difficult to compare. E.g., the K1300S's performance time specs to get from 0 to 100 km/hr say "in under 2.8 seconds". So you'd need quite some precise chronometer  ;)




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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 26, 2022, 07:48:05 am »
Yes, you're right now that you're mentioning this. I'll update this next week somewhere (now on family trip), and it will probably change the outcome indeed. It'll not be needing a third dimension, however.

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 25, 2022, 10:47:09 am »
Indeed, fully agree. However it has to be stressed that this calculation HAS to be done BEFORE the constant changes value !

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 24, 2022, 07:02:13 pm »
Same exercise for the K1300S (compensated for the bigger tyres).



I didn't do the exercise to compensate for the weight : when speaking of "top gear", speeds are that high that weight matters significantly less than aerodynamics (drag increases quadratically with increasing speed)...

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 24, 2022, 06:25:10 pm »
Exercise complete.



Provided I made no mistakes, I found out that I have 3 superfluous gears  :winkthumbs: ...

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: Torque - In the real world
« on: May 24, 2022, 03:22:50 pm »
To compare bikes, and as a simplification, speed could be added as the third dimension :
1. like e.g. in 10km/hr increments and
2. the maximum available torque in any gear the compared bike can ride at that speed.
That would/could be better as a base to compare bikes to one another and also compensates for lower-revving bikes. It involves considering the (back) wheel's diameter too, as a means to calculate the rpm for the 10km/hr increments. After that, considering weight is also possible (adding some average rider's weight) to compensate for "what is needed to accelerate".

Looks like an idea to elaborate on for my proper bike. All constants are in place to calculate the theoretical rpm for the speed with 1st reduction, 2nd reduction, all gear reductions, and the inverse (of reduction, what's the English word) for the back wheel's diameter. Then, every speed relates to one rpm number in every single gear to then calculate the theoretically optimal rpms to upshift in every separate gear.

Of course, this is only playing around with some theory : riding (and upshifting) accordingly is a totally other story... Upshifting based on "the feeling of the moment" still feels better, I guess...

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The Euro K Club Lounge / Re: New GSX-S1000GT - A K1300S replacement?
« on: October 28, 2021, 07:24:15 am »
I don't know if the seat position is the same as the one on the (naked) GSX-S1000. If it is, take care : the seat position (to start with) is not at all comparable to the K1300S because too much upwards (and not sporty at all).

And regarding all the rest (I'm speaking of the naked GSX-S1000) the same applies : it's at best a weak copy of the K1300S. After my K1300S (which only had 106 BHP in my version), I've riden the naked GSX-S. I won't say more : it's sold in the meantime  ::)

I prefer the less powered VFR800F (106 BHP) to the GSX-S with 146BHP. You're nothing with 146BHP if you can't put it on the road properly : contrary to the K1300S and the VFR800F, the power delivery feels like an "all on/all off". In the mountains, I am pretty confident that with my VFR800F, I keep the pace of a GSX-S1000 (GT). Contrary to the K1300S and the VFR800F, I will never call this bike "properly balanced"...

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K1200 / K1300 Forum / Re: UK fuel shortage fun
« on: October 06, 2021, 11:51:47 am »
... I managed to get a full tank in the car yesterday thankfully and ...

A full tank, thankfully ... or "tankfully" ?   8)

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